THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF

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Originally Posted by chadbag

Which if you extrapolate out would mean that $81k is really equivalent to about $108K (81/.75 which is a three month summer break which is about what schools out here in the west have since they don't take a week long February vacation and a week long April vacation and depending on where you are are also very stingy with snow days -- change it to 2.5 months and it is still about $101k).

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add the cash only tax free side jobs many may take during those summer month. For example: camp councilors, painters etc. We haven't even gotten into the college/university Professor's yet.

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Originally Posted by rickrock305

How about instead of looking for people to blame we worry about solutions. Then maybe try some grammar and punctuation to form your stream of consciousness into a coherent thought.

Yea, those greedy teachers making $20-$40k a year. :rolleyes:

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mock my grammar :) thats fine

while I might not know grammar at least I am not blind and stupid to the world around me

like I say YES I suck at writing but at least I know my weakness do you know yours !!! cause I could say its more than likely common sense

as for blaming ? well if you catch a thief in the act do you blame him or blame some other idea like his parenting ?
I would blame him he did it not his parents !

so when I see people doing things I know are wrong like shouting someone down ! its easy to point fingers ! you point them at the people shouting others down !!!!

remember they went to his speech to do this !!!

just like other left tactics that do this then point the blame somewhere else ?

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Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag

**** Columbia. They don't have to accept the military programs at their school, that's their right. But, in turn, they shouldn't recieve any gov. grants/funding.

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I just told my wife this very thing.

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Originally Posted by Mac5.56

Because bullying people into submission is not going to solve any problems. You actually proved my point.

I understand the passion of this thread, hell it's been going on for 50 years. Why not actually create a dialogue though rather then sitting and pissing in the wind saying the same old shit that has been spouted for years? Get over it, people say and do stupid shit and in a free society we are supposed to at least accept this. If people are willing to fight and die for this very right, why get so upset when it is actually utilized? Maybe we should pass a law that we can't offend any Vets?

I always find it funny when people tell me to "shut the **** up" in a discussion about free speech and people who fought for it.

Of all the Vets I know 90% of them fought for us to have the right to disagree, say stupid shit from time to time, challenge our government and basically use our freedoms (however ignorant some of us may be with those freedoms).

Give it a rest, move on to something more worthwhile.

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It is more about respect, less about free speech, but then you already know that. Which makes me think that you enjoy the responses that you get from some of your posts

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Originally Posted by winfield813@yahoo.com

From what I've read, the Wisconsin teachers average over 100k a year before benefits.

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Yeah, no. My mother in law is a high school teacher with her masters in WI and I can assure you that she does not make that kind of coin before benefits.

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Originally Posted by rickrock305

Here's average teacher salaries for Wisconsin. They are higher than a lot of places though. Most teachers I have known make between 20-30K a year. `

http://dpi.state.wi.us/lbstat/newasr.html

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In some of the districts in southern Arizona, first year teachers start at around $25K (cost of living here is lower than some other places). That is just salary. They are also given plenty of sick days, vacation days, and are well taken care of via benefits. Many have great medical and retirement packages. Also, don't forget tenure and the complete job security it provides. These benefits are worth a lot, as others have stated.

This thread is way off topic. If you want to discuss teachers and their salaries you can start another thread. If you want to discuss the situation in WI then I suggest taking your conversation to the threads already going on that topic.