I was checking out their website and found it odd that they dont let you buy a full auto carrier . Makes me wonder. For the record ive never owned any jp product but have heard nothing but good things about their individual components.
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I was checking out their website and found it odd that they dont let you buy a full auto carrier . Makes me wonder. For the record ive never owned any jp product but have heard nothing but good things about their individual components.
LRP-07 16" Is as light as my BCM and shoots just as smooth. I have personally seen JP's survive Carbine 1 & 2 of Magpul Dynamics classes where others have failed. BCM 14.5 middy is a great AR. Cant go wrong with either.
Never owned a full JP Rifle but have used their components over the years in various builds (free float handguards, triggers, gas blocks).
JP quality is more along the lines of Noveske or Larue rather than DD, Colt, BCM or LMT.
Each rifle is assembled by a single technician at his work bench with his own set of tools rather than being on a factory production/assembly line.
To say that they only make "gamer" guns is misleading, they make guns optimized for the needs of their customers. If their customer is a "gamer" then you'll get a space gun, if the customer is looking for a tactical rifle then they can build that too.
I've had several SME's over the years say "JP" when a someone asked "who makes the best AR?"
Things like rail-less free float handguards, mid-length gas systems and 1/8" barrels that are becoming popular now? JP was doing that years ago.
JP's long history of doing competition-oriented guns and parts, maybe more so the fact (OK, personal opinion) that they've done it so well, might make their foray into LE / tactical take a little more effort.
I'll just say that watching their stuff over the years, and with an ear to the ground as to their reputation, and personal dealings with them in the last 3-4 years, my take on them boils down to, outside the box thinkers, very quality and service oriented, willing to listen.
My very favorite bolt carrier is their tactical model. It is not lightened or anything like that.... it has their QPQ finish on it and is very smoothe in the upper. But the thing I like best about it, and is a way under-noticed feature, is that the clearance notch for the dust cover detent is just big enough. This means that if you're a guy who likes to close the dust cover between strings or what have you, if it won't close, you know the bolt is forward but not in battery. Not exactly a chamber-check but does give one more little bit of feedback that could be valuable.
I've worked with a couple of their fore-ends recently and they are really well-made.
FA carriers are not in line with their AR cycling philosophy. They focus on lightweight reciprocating parts for faster cycle times and less sight upset. If you're looking at a JP rifle, you're looking for a rifle that will drive tacks at any range that barely moves when you fire it. They do what they do very well, but that doesn't cover the entire AR spectrum. Game guns are subjected to harsh lives on the firing cycle, but not much else.
If I was looking for a pure game gun I could also take hunting, I'd get a 20" JP without question. Since I wanted an AR that would cover a broader spectrum of what I might use one for, I went with an 18" Noveske Rogue Hunter. Having fired it and a JP side by side, I don't feel like I'm at much of a disadvantage. :)
I find this thread interesting in that JP makes a very good rifle and they produce a rifle for all aspects from gamer to tactical. Check their website.
As for some of the responses I find that some people logic may be flawed. JP makes quality parts and whole rifles that are used by some of the best shooters in the world. They run the piss out of their guns and JP performs. To me, if these top shooters are running these rifles winning with them then they have a product that should be considered more than just a gamer rifle. Other than actual battle were are you going to test things, competition is where. Just as the military goes to other competitors for training and development ie race driving schools and racers for specilized vehicle development, I would think that going to one of the top rifle builders for a rifle would be considered a wise chioce as they have some great experience to draw upon.
Granted you are not going to go with the full gamer build but they have the experience to build a rifle that would work for the customer's need. Just my thought.