Surefire X300 vs. Streamlight TLR-1s

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Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

I won't own anymore Streamlights due to bad experiences with the older M3 and crappy customer service on Streamlights part.

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Can't speak for the customer service because I haven't needed it, but I can say the TLR and the M3 are completely different animals. And don't mistake me for some sort of Streamlight apologist, as you will have a hard time finding someone who HATES their Stinger line more than me. In fact, the TLR is pretty much the only Streamlight product I would recommend.

I think most of the Surefire's "advantages" are merely personal preference. I can't stand the beam profile/color and the switches on the X300, while others I know love 'em.

It's a personal preference, but I hate the switches on the TLRs. No push function like the X300 and to me they don't have a positive feel when activating them.

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Originally Posted by donr101395

It's a personal preference, but I hate the switches on the TLRs. No push function like the X300 and to me they don't have a positive feel when activating them.

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This^^^

I use a TLR-1 but like most users, I don't really ask that much of the light.

However, I figure "good enough for Defoor, good enough for me".

http://www.kyledefoor.com/2010/06/streamlight.html

the tlr's are great lights and Id like to say that they are just as good as...

but they arent. surefire really does have it wrapped up with the x300 line. nothing comes close.

The switches on the back of everything besides a X300 suck ass. They either feel like crap, do not have a positive feel, don't have momentary, or the way the switch is attached to the light is trash.

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Originally Posted by infidelprodigy

In the retail stores I've worked at, I have sent back a few TLR lights with broken switches and/or fractured lens. Inversely, I have yet to have anyone bring me a broken X300.

In the effort of full disclosure, a very good friend of mine has owned a X200A for approx. 4 years and is now having some issues with the momentary pressure switch (has to push forward hard to activate). So nothing is completely indestructible. But I would side with the X300, I have 3 with no issues at all, plus a couple X200A that are still going on training guns.

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Early X200s had a leaf spring on the switch that would wear out over time. Newer X series (200, 300, 400) have a coil spring. Surefire will replace for free.

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Originally Posted by infidelprodigy

In the retail stores I've worked at, I have sent back a few TLR lights with broken switches and/or fractured lens. Inversely, I have yet to have anyone bring me a broken X300.

In the effort of full disclosure, a very good friend of mine has owned a X200A for approx. 4 years and is now having some issues with the momentary pressure switch (has to push forward hard to activate). So nothing is completely indestructible. But I would side with the X300, I have 3 with no issues at all, plus a couple X200A that are still going on training guns.

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Just curious, is your X200A (the one that has problems) a 4-screw or a 6-screw model?

I have an older X200 (four screw mount) that I bought when they first came out many years ago. It has served as both my duty handgun light, and was retired to my bedside light after my agency issued us new X200's. After untold rounds, duty abuse and numerous qualifications, trainings and live house clearings on search warrant and partol entries I finally wore out the switch early this year. It had the old leaf style spring. I called surefire expecting to be charged as I figured it was a "wear item." They sent me a new updated switch for no charge.

The light is still going strong, and is now relegated to the center consol of my vehicle as I have a new X300 for my nightstand gun. The X series of light are the best in my opinion. I have used the older insight lights and one stopped working after one day at the range. I know the X series lights work, and despite their expense I will stay with what I know what works and has good factory support.

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Originally Posted by infidelprodigy

In the retail stores I've worked at, I have sent back a few TLR lights with broken switches and/or fractured lens. Inversely, I have yet to have anyone bring me a broken X300.

In the effort of full disclosure, a very good friend of mine has owned a X200A for approx. 4 years and is now having some issues with the momentary pressure switch (has to push forward hard to activate). So nothing is completely indestructible. But I would side with the X300, I have 3 with no issues at all, plus a couple X200A that are still going on training guns.

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I had the lens break free in the housing on my X300.
No abuse or anything, I was just shooting it on my TRP.
Looked at it after shooting and could see glass fragments inside, and it would spin in the housing. It seems to be a 2 layer lens or something, and the outer layer would move.

The light still worked, and of course Surefire fixed me up very quickly, but just throwing it out there as having happened.