thanks wolf. one poster said the upper was between his middy and a LW in weight. another said it was about equal to his 14.5".
this all tallies with the posted weights of the barrels themselves as posted by Spikes but I wonder about the weight spread. they have the gov't. countour, the Optimum, and the lightweight barrels only about an ounce difference from each other. my BCM gov't. and LW middies are almost 5 ounces difference...

