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B5 is selling SOPMOD stocks for $120 & pics of the Bravo stocks for $58
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These are great for airsoft guns, you can even use them on real guns if you feel like sanding down your buffer tube or the inside of the fake sopmod. If you don't mind having them stuck in one place than no need to even do the sanding. The latch will also require modification in many cases.
These stocks were going for IIrc $68 a piece so apparently they just hiked up the price.
LMT's website has info and pics to help folks who actually want the real deal SOPMODs and to ensure they didn't just buy an airsoft stock.
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I believe B5 has the current military contract.
When you buy rejected military seconds, you sort of get what you get.
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So KAC and LMT lost the contract to whoever the heck B5 is.
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See this is where college grads should stick to college threads and not military procurement related threads.
There are lots of companies with military contracts, even for stuff we know of as one brand on the commercial market, who make stuff for the military. The gov is great at putting things in contracts that allows them to get stuff now, and when one company cannot produce enough stuff other companies are allowed to fill in.
There are companies you NEVER EVER heard of making things like rail mount leaf sights, batteries, filters, and all manner of military hardware.
Does that mean I'd buy a "second" from B5? Not really but they are not airsoft parts from China, either.
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Just to give an example I have a pair a ACU's that were made by woolrich, and I bet no one would be any the wiser or ever think Woolrich would be making military issue clothing. Along the same like a favorite libtard hippy brand Patagonia made a large run of special issue clothing for the military.
When one company cannot meet demand usually other companies are allowed to make the product to meet the demand. Just because part XYZ was made by ABC for the commercial market does not mean ABC is the sole source military supplier. And I do believe the SOPMOD stock design is a Crane design in the first place.
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Originally Posted by
TRIDENT82
These are great for airsoft guns, you can even use them on real guns if you feel like sanding down your buffer tube or the inside of the fake sopmod. If you don't mind having them stuck in one place than no need to even do the sanding. The latch will also require modification in many cases.
These stocks were going for IIrc $68 a piece so apparently they just hiked up the price.
LMT's website has info and pics to help folks who actually want the real deal SOPMODs and to ensure they didn't just buy an airsoft stock.
Did you read the linked article? Also might want to check out the comments.
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yes, it's legit. All those B5 stocks that sold cheaply were factory seconds. They needed to be sanded down in some places to fit. B5 has the .mil contract (I don't know if it's 100% of the contract or just a piece). There's another company making the KAC rail covers too. You couldn't tell the difference if it didn't say P&S instead of KAC. These aren't factory seconds. These are supposed to be good to go.
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Originally Posted by
TRIDENT82
These are great for airsoft guns, you can even use them on real guns if you feel like sanding down your buffer tube or the inside of the fake sopmod. If you don't mind having them stuck in one place than no need to even do the sanding. The latch will also require modification in many cases.
This is 100% incorrect. The FIRST generation of these stocks that were UNDER CONTRACT TO THE USA were incorrectly sized for a mil-spec RE. That wasn't the companies fault. The prints that were provided to them BY THE GOVT were incorrect.
The 2nd GEN of these stocks are 100% correct and true and have some rather large contracts with the Govt.
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These stocks were going for IIrc $68 a piece so apparently they just hiked up the price.
The stocks that were dumped on the market a few years ago, went through DRMO and somebody bought them all and sold them to the public. The reason they were dumped was because of the above.
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LMT's website has info and pics to help folks who actually want the real deal SOPMODs and to ensure they didn't just buy an airsoft stock.
Just so we set the record straight, no on the CURRENT GEN stocks being fake or not correct. The company that is making these HAS a USA contract.
C4
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TRIDENT82
So KAC and LMT lost the contract to whoever the heck B5 is.
Yes (from what I understand). It is also my understanding that other .Mil groups are interested in these as well. So we will see more contracts with others I think.
C4
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Originally Posted by
scoutfsu99
yes, it's legit. All those B5 stocks that sold cheaply were factory seconds. They needed to be sanded down in some places to fit. B5 has the .mil contract (I don't know if it's 100% of the contract or just a piece). There's another company making the KAC rail covers too. You couldn't tell the difference if it didn't say P&S instead of KAC. These aren't factory seconds. These are supposed to be good to go.
Rail covers AND RAS Rails (I have some).
C4
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roger, I forgot about those.
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For the record, we have some of these stocks coming for T&E. We will also be a distr. for them and will offer some cool package deals.
I have been running a KAC/LMT SOPMOD since day one and still consider it the best or one of the best stocks ever designed. So I will give you guys my input on its quality compared to the KAC/LMT version.
C4
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C4IGrant
The stocks that were dumped on the market a few years ago, went through DRMO and somebody bought them all and sold them to the public. The reason they were dumped was because of the above.
C4
I thought that ALL weapons parts had to be demil'd (scraped) before they could be sold (as scrap). Am I mistaken or has something changed.
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CAR-AR-M16
I thought that ALL weapons parts had to be demil'd (scraped) before they could be sold (as scrap). Am I mistaken or has something changed.
Not that I am aware of.
C4
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Originally Posted by
C4IGrant
For the record, we have some of these stocks coming for T&E. We will also be a distr. for them and will offer some cool package deals.
I have been running a KAC/LMT SOPMOD since day one and still consider it the best or one of the best stocks ever designed. So I will give you guys my input on its quality compared to the KAC/LMT version.
C4
10-4...your previous replies in this thread make much more since after reading this reply.
If anybody can make and sell SOPMOD stocks in the civilian market I wonder why nobody else has done it before. See the reply from Car- as I question that as well.
I'll stick with the known quantity that hasn't produced a ton of them to the wrong specs.
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TRIDENT82
10-4...your previous replies in this thread make much more since after reading this reply.
If anybody can make and sell SOPMOD stocks in the civilian market I wonder why nobody else has done it before. See the reply from Car- as I question that as well.
I'll stick with the known quantity that hasn't produced a ton of them to the wrong specs.
I don't think that "anyone" can produce and sell these to the "public."
Remember that the "incorrect spec" was not the companies fault. It was actually the Govt's fault.
If you are fine with paying double for the same thing, then drive on brother.
C4
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Grant, look forward to your testing of them. I might be in the market for a couple.
Thanks!!
ARKAR
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Originally Posted by
C4IGrant
For the record, we have some of these stocks coming for T&E. We will also be a distr. for them and will offer some cool package deals.
I have been running a KAC/LMT SOPMOD since day one and still consider it the best or one of the best stocks ever designed. So I will give you guys my input on its quality compared to the KAC/LMT version.
C4
Be interested in your review.
The Multi-cam Pattern looks 90 degrees off to me.
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Originally Posted by
C4IGrant
For the record, we have some of these stocks coming for T&E. We will also be a distr. for them and will offer some cool package deals.
I have been running a KAC/LMT SOPMOD since day one and still consider it the best or one of the best stocks ever designed. So I will give you guys my input on its quality compared to the KAC/LMT version.
C4
Badass.
Just what I wanted to hear.
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Originally Posted by
C4IGrant
For the record, we have some of these stocks coming for T&E. We will also be a distr. for them and will offer some cool package deals.
I have been running a KAC/LMT SOPMOD since day one and still consider it the best or one of the best stocks ever designed. So I will give you guys my input on its quality compared to the KAC/LMT version.
C4
My credit card is waiting on your review!
... now if you'd just get more black or tan padded VCAS slings in, I could grace you with even more cash.
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Originally Posted by
C4IGrant
For the record, we have some of these stocks coming for T&E. We will also be a distr. for them and will offer some cool package deals.
I have been running a KAC/LMT SOPMOD since day one and still consider it the best or one of the best stocks ever designed. So I will give you guys my input on its quality compared to the KAC/LMT version.
C4
Cool let us know.
Does anyone know for sure that lmt/kac lost the contract to make these or if they are just being sourced from multiple providers? Also doesn't b5 make the front kac stile grip as well for the military?
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Originally Posted by
C4IGrant
This is 100% incorrect. The FIRST generation of these stocks that were UNDER CONTRACT TO THE USA were incorrectly sized for a mil-spec RE. That wasn't the companies fault. The prints that were provided to them BY THE GOVT were incorrect.
The 2nd GEN of these stocks are 100% correct and true and have some rather large contracts with the Govt.
The stocks that were dumped on the market a few years ago, went through DRMO and somebody bought them all and sold them to the public. The reason they were dumped was because of the above.
Just so we set the record straight, no on the CURRENT GEN stocks being fake or not correct. The company that is making these HAS a USA contract.
C4
How do you tell the difference between the bad gen's vs the current good gen's?
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If only these came out a year ago...
Wonder how these will effect other similar stocks, like the ACS and Vltor.
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armakraut
Colt should be putting these on their rifles.
I've heard that somewhere before.... ;)
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The only reason I used any stock other than the SOPMOD on serious guns was the price.
This bodes well for my rifles if I can get them for less than the cost of the ACS (which I do like BTW).
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yunggunz
How do you tell the difference between the bad gen's vs the current good gen's?
I believe the first ones that did not have the correct specs don't have the QD swivels and were based off the early sopmod. The corrected ones have the qd swivel. Also the ones that were not sized right were only black if I'm not mistaken.
I'm sure someone can chime in to verify.
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Originally Posted by
C4IGrant
Yes (from what I understand). It is also my understanding that other .Mil groups are interested in these as well. So we will see more contracts with others I think.
C4
Does anyone know why KAC and LMT lost the contract?
Joe Mamma
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Originally Posted by
C4IGrant
For the record, we have some of these stocks coming for T&E. We will also be a distr. for them and will offer some cool package deals.
I have been running a KAC/LMT SOPMOD since day one and still consider it the best or one of the best stocks ever designed. So I will give you guys my input on its quality compared to the KAC/LMT version.
C4
I'm gonna be looking forward to you review on them. I've been thinking about getting a new stock for a while. Although i've heard they have some sharp edges on them.
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Joe Mamma
Does anyone know why KAC and LMT lost the contract?
Joe Mamma
I'm not sure if anyone verified lmt lost any current contract of it they are just being sourced through multiple vendors.
Past that I'm guessing b5 underbid them.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...or-just-12-28/
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Frankly, I'll stick with Vltor stocks.
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Failure2Stop
The only reason I used any stock other than the SOPMOD on serious guns was the price.
This bodes well for my rifles if I can get them for less than the cost of the ACS (which I do like BTW).
I used to avoid looking at SOPMOD stocks until I started hunting for deals. You can find them for under $100 new/used if you look hard enough. I bought one used on TOS for that price, and I recently bought a genuine LMT stock on ebay for $75.
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Failure2Stop
The only reason I used any stock other than the SOPMOD on serious guns was the price.
This bodes well for my rifles if I can get them for less than the cost of the ACS (which I do like BTW).
I like the ACS too. Shrouded latch, friction lock and ability to change to extended or shorter buttpads:what's not to like?
Still might have to buy one of the B5 SOPMOD stocks if the price is right.
ARKAR
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I'll definately be down for one once we get word from Grant on them, have been looking to replace my rattletastic vltor modstock for awhile now.
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yunggunz
How do you tell the difference between the bad gen's vs the current good gen's?
Diameter of the RE hole would be my first guess.
The way to make CERTAIN that you are getting the latest GEN is to buy it from us. ;)
C4
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UPDATE!
Got three of these in for review.
My initial impression is that they are well made and almost identical to my LMT's.
Tried them on three different RE's (Colt, LMT and BCM). All fit perfectly and were tight (read no rattle).
Pics and more thoughts later.....
C4
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Joe Mamma
Does anyone know why KAC and LMT lost the contract?
Joe Mamma
pure speculation, but like KAC rails, they were the only game in town years ago, now you can hardly give them away. I'm sure Uncle Sam is looking for ways to save money and buy the same cheaper.
For quality and value, the Imod is hard to beat in my opinion. Although I have 8 LMT stocks in my inventory--and a few Imods's:cool:
Just do yourself a favor and buy these from Grant or other established dealer/respected seller, so you don't get ripped off buying a fake.
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Grant, please let us know when you will carry them. I ordered one from rptactical, they won't have it in stock till next week, and they won't ship to certain states.
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What IS the advantage of the SOPMOD over the VLTOR Imod?