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For recce optics i'm wondering why S&B or Swaro aren't on the list.
Isn't the actual recce/recon used with a 2.5-10x Nightforce?
I had a 1.5-5x Mark 4 with the CMR2 reticle and I hated it. Eye box was shitty at best, illumination poor, and the scope felt like it was over priced.
It really turned me off to Leupold stuff.
I said I wanted first focal plane and a price tag of $1,500 or under?Quote:
Originally Posted by bp7178
You are correct sir, both the x32 and x24 are in current use:)Quote:
Originally Posted by bp7178
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The Leupold 1.5-5x is second focal plane.Quote:
Originally Posted by sprice
FFP optics in the 1-4 range really aren't very useable under 4x as far as ranging goes. Even holdovers would be difficult on 1x, the reticles are very small at that magnification.
The 2.5-10x24 is an amazing little scope, superb weight and size with a very useful range. Personally I don't see the appeal of the 1.5-X scopes, as for me 1.5 is still very very slow compared to a reflex, in the case of the 2.5-10x24 you are getting a similar size package and getting double the top end at 10x. Selfishly I want to tell you to get the 1-6 since I'm actually very curious about that scope myself, but can't bring myself to try it. I'm not sure how useful the BDC would be for me since I'm mainly shooting 77g @ ~2600 FPS as opposed to the 14.5" m855 that the 1-6 is calibrated for. The USO 1.8-10 is nice but very heavy and imho too much money when you get one with illumination and I don't really see the need for FFP in a 10X scope when you can pick up a used 2.5-10x24 for around $1000.Quote:
Originally Posted by TRIDENT82
ETA: OP for $1500 you are not going to find any 1-8 at all, so I would probably take that dream off your list, also why is FFP a requirement when one of the optics you are considering is a fixed 4 power? Do you envision scenarios where you will actually be ranging at for instance 2.5 power? Even if you needed to, it would be a very straightforward affair to do this with a scope where the rangefinder was accurate at 10x. I would also recommend against employing mil dots primarily as a makeshift BDC. They can be extremely useful holdover points but as a BDC you will likely be sorely disappointed.
Indeed sir, the nxsc 2.5-10x24 is quite the amazing little optic:)
I really use mine, and won't ever be parting ways with it.
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I know 1-8 is completely out of the question but that is just so you know what i would really want it, even though i know it'll be different because of the lower price.
I suppose I should be rethinking how much i need ffp, if second plane would indeed be better then help me decide and point me in the right direction!
oh yeah, thank you trident for all your input and pics, i appreciate and respect your information and your posts on Snipers' hide. I love your youtube vids to!
With something like a 2.5-10x, I could see wanting a FFP. For a 1-4x, ehhh...it doesn't make a lot of sense, at least to me.
Swaro has a 1.7-10x42 that looks good, but with the illuminated reticle and ballistic turret is upwards of $2.8k.
I don't see a BDC reticle being very useful outside of the military where everyone has the same rifle and ammunition. You can play with the zero and get ACOGs close, but it won't be as accurate as chronographing your round and dialing for drop.
Thanks for the kind words brother, I would have weighed in more but didn't have any real experience with the options you listed in your op.
I'm obviously biased towards NF's offerings, however they have treated me extremely well, and up to this point I have not personally needed anything else besides what they offered.
You can always go with a 2/3-9/10x type optic and then run a secondary optic like a T-1 in a 45 degree mount to give you the 1x type capabilities. I really like Larue's LT724 mount in conjunct with a T-1 for this type configuration.
My recommendation would be to go with a NXSc 2.5-10x?(x24s are really hard to come by now that they are extinct, however the x32s are readily available). Then play around with it a little bit and if you find yourself wanting or needing a 1x capability, pick up a nice 45 degree offset mount and a T-1.
You certainly can get a whole lot of bang for your buck with a budget of $1500.
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NXSc 2.5-10x24 with a LT724/T-1 secondary
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