Anyone have a link to the Filthy 14 40,000+ round torture test I have been hearing about...did a google search and could not find any current valid links ?
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Anyone have a link to the Filthy 14 40,000+ round torture test I have been hearing about...did a google search and could not find any current valid links ?
http://www.swatmag.com/content/issues/view/october_2010
this link is pretty much the whole article cut and paste
http://www.slip2000.com/art-swat2.html
Hope this helps
Here you go...Filthy 14.
Thanks guys....
Or you could just order something from BCM. They'll send you a new copy of the article every time. ;)
Love this BCM video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_4CskJJxvY
and this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_-9c...eature=related
FYI: Talking with Pat this weekend, Filthy 14 has over 43,000 rounds on it and still shoots 1.5 inch groups at 50 yards. It will be rebuilt.
Thank you for the update, Roger.
I had an opportunity to T&E this weapon a couple of years ago, before it hit 30K rounds. It shot very well, no malfunctions or issues, and it ate everything I fed it over three days in AZ. I showed me three things, one how much an improvement the 14.5 mid gas system is over the carbine gas M4, what a great optic the T1 is, and that Slip 2000 is a great lube.
Filthy 14 was a 16" midlength
I thought it was a 14.5 with the perm attached A2X? Guess I gotta re-read the article
The EAG Tactical carbine/upper offered by BCM has a 14.5 with a permed A2X. Filthy 14 was a 16" with a A2.
never mind...thanks.
Hell yeah, over! By 5000+ rounds....! :D
I was at the Gadsden Carbine 2 class, last week. #70 and #77 have 12k and about 9k on them, respectively, and they SMELL. There are other T&E guns for EAG student use, with what lot of folks would erroneously think of as a blasphemous amounts of rounds sent downrange without a single cleaning. Bear in mind, Filthy 14 just happens to be the one with the most.
There were 14 soldiers at the class I just attended. I about dropped a deuce in my shorts laughing at the exclaimations of shock and horror when Pat pulled the BCG out of #70 to show them. Looked like it had wind-drifted dunes of wet, black sand on it....
I just want to say that is crazy. At .25cents a round that is almost $10,000 of ammo.(I'm guessing they did not shoot wolf in this gun) I wish they had taken pics when they cleaned it or when the bolt broke. I'd also love to see what an exstractor looks like after 13k rounds.
http://www.03designgroup.com/reviews...ower-receivers
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_138/1...00_rounds.htmlQuote:
On 12-24-09 I contacted Pat Rogers to see what the current round count of the BCM 16" Mid-Length that he has been loaning out to students. Pat refers to this BCM Mid-Length as "Filthy 14" and provided me with the following information on this gun:
Quote:
Posted: 11/15/2010 6:25:58 AM
Filthy 14 broke 40k this past weekend at the EAG Carbine 2 Course in Franklin TN.
#14 is a 16" Mid Length that has been used in EAG classes since we first received it.
I had a similar experience with one of his T&E guns 2 years ago. When I went to add some Slip EWL to the BCG, that's exactly what I saw. It was both cool and vindicating (Since I'd regularly take my ARs up to 5K with just lube, while shooting Wolf!) to see these weapons go beyond 15K rounds fired without cleaning. ;)
I'm sorry to resurrect:
Anyone have a current link for the filthy 14 article?
I'm doing research for a project here and I'd like to use that article as a source.
if at all possible to scan and send, that's easiest for me. due to the location and nature of my new job, I'm not able to get phone calls out that easily.
If no one posts up a link with pics by tomorrow afternoon pm me and I'll try and get it scanned for you.
Yeap I know but the best I could do.Sorry,
Slip used to have the entire article in pdf on the old site,but thats the only source I could find.Pictures or not the hard information is there.Would also be good to take note of Pat Rogers followup commentary on the subject in his forum posts of the subject to fill in the details that were not included in the article.
Found this. Works as of this post.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/50367872/filthy14-oct10
SWAT Magazine did the article and I've even gotten a 3-4 page specialty article dealio from Bravo Co about a year ago when I placed an order. Try to get ahold of SWAT to see if they have the article they did on digital.
i doubt there's an extractor made that can go that many rounds. Also maximum life for a buffer spring should be 10,000 rounds. If it doesn't get changed by then I'd think you'd be gambling with the function.
All the pdf to filthy 14 are gone from the net, the only one i found its the one where they want you to pay $15. I'd like to read the article, for those who have, do they say what parts they had to change?
I found another similar article by some soldier who was a range master and did a similar test. I'd post a link but i don't know how on an Android. He basically said magazine issues caused 80% of malfunctions. In his rifle he always installed a heavier buffer ("H" or "H3" buffer) and the heavier extractor spring with neoprene o-ring. Doing this made the rifle"obscenely reliable". I will post the link later unless somebody else would be kind enough to do it first.
I found and posted a PDF link to Filthy 14 about 3 posts up.
Here is a img i pulled off the web. this is supposed to be at the 31k mark.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8148/7...74f662e7_z.jpg
i got it from a google img search
Just tried again it works perfect for me. There's arrows to switch pages.
On my iPad if I try and save the pics it blocks out the article. Some kind of security feature I suppose.
Deleted. Quality was crap. I'll post a better quality version here later.