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Thread: Abuse limits for an AR

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    In conus le work you would never kill a rifle with the possible exeption of a serious vehicle accident. Mine gets banged around loose on the passenger seat for years and except for knocking the glass out of a few doors/windows it hasn't taken much in abuse.

    Short answer, unless I am in full .mil combat it will take way more than I can give it.

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    There isn't really much legitimate or objective data out there about that. Only speculation it seems. Such information is probably classified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ermac View Post
    There isn't really much legitimate or objective data out there about that. Only speculation it seems. Such information is probably classified.
    I dont know about classified. I cant see why it would be. There may just not be scientific data accumulated on it.

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    Jsop,

    I should have mentioned that 2 other guys and I have put over 4300 rounds through a 5.45 piston operated gun over the course of about 2 months. The gun was wiped down on the internals and never lubed. Ammo was the russian surplus stuff that comes in the spam cans. I think it hiccuped somewhere just after the 4300 mark. It was never cleaned and it sat as is between each trip to the range. We have a video of it on youtube. If you type in Huldra Arms you'll find it. Off the top of my head I haven't seen anyone do that without lubing the gun first. Not saying no one else has done it just haven't seen it. Somebody commented on another thread that it was stupid not to lube the gun. We were just doing it as an endurance test. Woud we do that to our personal guns? No not at all.

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    I guess you can say it was somewhat of a torture test as far as internals go. The gun is still shooting pretty good. Its not real accurate for an AR but I atribute that to the type of ammo as I have shot 5.56 WPA and my groups ranged from 3 inches(5 shots) and another group was 5 inches. Both were shot from 100 yds.

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    One of my NCOs hit an IED and it bent his barrel and bolt, the bolt! He was fine BTW.
    Last edited by Todd00000; 03-02-12 at 19:56.
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    photos of an M4 from an IED explosion

    I found some pictures of an M4 that was destroyed in an IED attack on my company while deployed just outside of Fallujah. This was one of my buddies rifle. His vehicle hit an IED. No one was killed thankfully.

    I believe this one was completely destroyed. In one of the pics you can see that the rear takedown pin was busted. Barrel is bent all to hell. I don't remember if the Aimpoint still worked or not. I want to say that it still had power.

    This will give you an idea of what happens to them. Others that were blown up actually came back and put into service again.

    I was our unit armorer. I had a M2 .50 cal that was completely blown off a humvee and thrown about 30 yds and it was still functional. That is one helluva gun!

    Hope these pics answer some questions.

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    Here is one more of the lower. I could only upload 5 at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huldra128 View Post
    Here is one more of the lower. I could only upload 5 at a time.
    lower still looks functional to me

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    This is why I rolled my eyes when Daniel defense "blew up" their DDM4
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