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Thread: New Daniel Defense upper, well sort of... What would you guys/gals do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    If you bought this from an internet forum, I would approach the moderators with the issue and either get them actively involved in the issue or attempt to have the individual seller banned from the forum.

    Also, I would keep copies of the original advertisement and all correspondence with the seller.
    I concur with the above. The way I read what you're saying is that the seller false advertised and then "dodged" the issue once you contacted him. Very few people are going to sell a shady product and then admit to it once caught. They will continue to dodge the issue until you go away.

    If it was an honest mistake on the seller's part, that's ok too, he should just get some mandated time to go back and figure out what he is attempting to sell before being authorized to sell again.

    I sold a DPMS, I advertised it as such. To each their own though.
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    I would be a upset if it happened to me. The good thing is a lot of people actually like DPMS (had a guy at the range laugh at my Daniels Defense because he had a quality DPMS ) and you can probably sell the barrel relatively easy. That will put you most of the way to a new DD barrel. Go for it and complete your upper. Hope things work out for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polymorpheous View Post
    Swapping BCGs would accomplish nothing.

    OP, the DD button rifled barrel you are looking at, does it have a FSB installed? The ones I've seen do not.
    You have a railed forend with a cut out for a FSB correct?

    My advice...
    Sell the barrel, buy a new one.
    These barrels are found all over. Pk firearms has them with FSB for $220.

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    Sorry to hear about that bum deal. Get a DD barrel. They are great.
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    Buy your optic. Shoot this one with DPMS barrel. Save your $ for your 300BLK Barrel. Make the switch when you can afford it.

    Follow that plan you came up with. It is as good a solution as any other ones given here.

    ETA: the idea to have it reamed to try 556 is a good one
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    This sort of thing happened to me when I bought a rifle last year. Advertized as Spikes with everything checking out except the bcg. The guy did pretty much the same thing you described so I just said F it and bought a Spikes bcg for $100 and I have a $50 spare DPMS semi bcg sitting in the safe. It was a good deal even if you tack on $50-$100 so I don't mind, but I know what you mean about feeling pissed that someone was dishonest with you.

    You should sell the barrel for $100 loss to pick up a DD and you still got a pretty good deal at $625 for the upper. Sell the DT/CMMG/DSA with the Bushmaster bcg, move the BCM into the DD, move the Spikes bcg to the Bushy. Check headspace. You'll have enough for an optic for your high quality rifle and a decent back-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Basically you got screwed and unfortunately you have no recourse. I would get rid of the SPMS barrel and sell it to someone who thinks they are good.

    Put a good barrel in it and then move on.
    Quote Originally Posted by 8ball29 View Post
    Sell the barrel on arfcom and get what you can out of it. You could try and get a barrel from the equipment exchange on here to help keep the cost down.
    Quote Originally Posted by tdoom15 View Post
    I agree with this. I'd also try to squeeze a partial refund from the seller as well, atleast it will make you feel a little better.
    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    If you bought this from an internet forum, I would approach the moderators with the issue and either get them actively involved in the issue or attempt to have the individual seller banned from the forum.

    Also, I would keep copies of the original advertisement and all correspondence with the seller.
    Lot of good advice here - these in particular stand out.

    And definitely get a QUALITY barrel.
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    I know the thread is a little older but I thought I would give you good folks an update!

    So I did end up getting a $50.00 dollar refund from the seller. That is all I will say about that. I'm shocked I finally got that. Turned into a mess on a forum before I got that though. Then the thread got locked and the admin removed it when he found out I had the money. Basically no one who didn't see the thread will know the guys shady now. Nice huh?

    Oh well.

    So moving on! I ended up removing the Daniel Defense upper receiver from the complete upper and put on a DS Arms upper I had laying around. Probably all the same stuff but hey, I wanted to keep the DD upper.

    I then ended up selling the complete upper to a friend who did not care that it was or wasn't a complete DD upper. I got $25.00 more then I paid so with the refunded $50, I now had $600.00 in my pocket.

    I bought a Daniel Defense 1/7 16 inch CHF barrel and a M4-A1 RIS II and a DD BCG and now I have this:



    I know it's hard to tell from the photo but the only main part on that gun that is NOT DD is the lower receiver. Even the lower has a full DD LPK in it. Oh and I know you can't see it but it has a MATECH rear BUIS and a Knights Armament Co. Mk18 front BUIS in taupe/FDE color.

    Thing is deadly accurate too! Couldn't be happier now.
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    I'd demand my money back. I would sue his ass for fraud, misrep, breach of k if no refund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadblock View Post
    I know the thread is a little older but I thought I would give you good folks an update!

    So I did end up getting a $50.00 dollar refund from the seller. That is all I will say about that. I'm shocked I finally got that. Turned into a mess on a forum before I got that though. Then the thread got locked and the admin removed it when he found out I had the money. Basically no one who didn't see the thread will know the guys shady now. Nice huh?

    Oh well.

    So moving on! I ended up removing the Daniel Defense upper receiver from the complete upper and put on a DS Arms upper I had laying around. Probably all the same stuff but hey, I wanted to keep the DD upper.

    I then ended up selling the complete upper to a friend who did not care that it was or wasn't a complete DD upper. I got $25.00 more then I paid so with the refunded $50, I now had $600.00 in my pocket.

    I bought a Daniel Defense 1/7 16 inch CHF barrel and a M4-A1 RIS II and a DD BCG and now I have this:



    I know it's hard to tell from the photo but the only main part on that gun that is NOT DD is the lower receiver. Even the lower has a full DD LPK in it. Oh and I know you can't see it but it has a MATECH rear BUIS and a Knights Armament Co. Mk18 front BUIS in taupe/FDE color.

    Thing is deadly accurate too! Couldn't be happier now.
    That's a sick rifle. But I agree with some of the other posters...you definitely could have sued him if you had wanted to. It's super easy; you just have to make one trip to the courthouse with 35$ and a thirst for justice
    Apparently not the owner of Spikes Tactical

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