The Official Where Can I Get It Thread?

[Hank6046]

I suddenly and for the first time am interested in putting an offset MRDS on a scoped rifle having an LPVO on it. The world seems to be telling me that having an offset MRDS mount that puts the dot at the standard 2.5 / 2.6 offset over the bore is a dumb idea. I can't find anyone that makes it or has considered it. Am I really crazy for thinking:
1. Mounting an MRDS ~an inch higher than anything else makes it that much more vulnerable to knocks and damage;
2. Mounting it that high means all the accustomed-to close range offsets are now slightly different;
3. Mounting it that high means there is no chance of co-witnessing with offset, flip-up, BUIS. I actually almost got the product-inquiry equivalent of rolled eyes on that one. Like, "why would you want that?" My answer would be, MRDS are delicate to start with, plus.... you know, batteries. For a < 2 oz weight penalty, I might like to have some irons.

What I want specifically: a 45 degree offset MRDS mount that has protective wings and puts the MRDS (at this point, whatever MRDS but looking to start with a Vortex Venom) at a height that allows a centered co-witness with flip-up, offset, BUIS. I have not measured everything out there but my impression and belief is that all or most such BUIS put the sights at the "usual" height over bore. Strong pref that it not be QD, it adds weight. It seems like I may have found some out-of-production offerings, they looked lower but no info WRT dot height over bore.

Also: an associate recently bought the new S&W 2.0 "Metal". No plastic frame, it's aluminum and sofar it seems like a great pistol. It's optics ready coming with multiple adaptor plates. The one that fits the Venom is parallel and will not allow him to get the dot adjusted down to the point of impact. We have looked at a few aftermarket ones and the same problem applies. By my reckoning it calls for maybe 40 minutes of "downslope". 20 or 30 might do it. Not sure but I'm surprised if the Venom has "less" adjustment to it. Any comments / help? As with the above I've tried a few and don't want to keep buying and trying, I want to just find one that has actual info like, "X-MOA of downslope" or, "made to work with Venom / S&W combo".

https://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPOINT4-WPG-ROS

This is the only one that I know of with the "wings" to protect the optic but I believe is only for the J-Point Optic. One of the guys I've shot with has this on his 3 gun AR, I've reached out to see how he likes it.

[454308]

I think the closest would be the trex offset mount, no wings though.


Who are recommended NV vendors? I know tnvc, nocturnality, and steele. Im looking for photonis pvs 14, especially with a BF deal.

Jrh enterprises. I believe he goes by lowdown on this forum

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[Wake27]

I suddenly and for the first time am interested in putting an offset MRDS on a scoped rifle having an LPVO on it. The world seems to be telling me that having an offset MRDS mount that puts the dot at the standard 2.5 / 2.6 offset over the bore is a dumb idea. I can't find anyone that makes it or has considered it. Am I really crazy for thinking:
1. Mounting an MRDS ~an inch higher than anything else makes it that much more vulnerable to knocks and damage;
2. Mounting it that high means all the accustomed-to close range offsets are now slightly different;
3. Mounting it that high means there is no chance of co-witnessing with offset, flip-up, BUIS. I actually almost got the product-inquiry equivalent of rolled eyes on that one. Like, "why would you want that?" My answer would be, MRDS are delicate to start with, plus.... you know, batteries. For a < 2 oz weight penalty, I might like to have some irons.

What I want specifically: a 45 degree offset MRDS mount that has protective wings and puts the MRDS (at this point, whatever MRDS but looking to start with a Vortex Venom) at a height that allows a centered co-witness with flip-up, offset, BUIS. I have not measured everything out there but my impression and belief is that all or most such BUIS put the sights at the "usual" height over bore. Strong pref that it not be QD, it adds weight. It seems like I may have found some out-of-production offerings, they looked lower but no info WRT dot height over bore.

Also: an associate recently bought the new S&W 2.0 "Metal". No plastic frame, it's aluminum and sofar it seems like a great pistol. It's optics ready coming with multiple adaptor plates. The one that fits the Venom is parallel and will not allow him to get the dot adjusted down to the point of impact. We have looked at a few aftermarket ones and the same problem applies. By my reckoning it calls for maybe 40 minutes of "downslope". 20 or 30 might do it. Not sure but I'm surprised if the Venom has "less" adjustment to it. Any comments / help? As with the above I've tried a few and don't want to keep buying and trying, I want to just find one that has actual info like, "X-MOA of downslope" or, "made to work with Venom / S&W combo".

Seems like you’re searching for an uncommon solution to an anticipated problem. I’ve thrown around my rifle with a Holosun on offset during 3 gun and it’s been fine.

You’re set on needing three aiming systems, two of them being cowitnessed?


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I suddenly and for the first time am interested in putting an offset MRDS on a scoped rifle having an LPVO on it. The world seems to be telling me that having an offset MRDS mount that puts the dot at the standard 2.5 / 2.6 offset over the bore is a dumb idea. I can't find anyone that makes it or has considered it. Am I really crazy for thinking:
1. Mounting an MRDS ~an inch higher than anything else makes it that much more vulnerable to knocks and damage;
2. Mounting it that high means all the accustomed-to close range offsets are now slightly different;
3. Mounting it that high means there is no chance of co-witnessing with offset, flip-up, BUIS. I actually almost got the product-inquiry equivalent of rolled eyes on that one. Like, "why would you want that?" My answer would be, MRDS are delicate to start with, plus.... you know, batteries. For a < 2 oz weight penalty, I might like to have some irons.

What I want specifically: a 45 degree offset MRDS mount that has protective wings and puts the MRDS (at this point, whatever MRDS but looking to start with a Vortex Venom) at a height that allows a centered co-witness with flip-up, offset, BUIS. I have not measured everything out there but my impression and belief is that all or most such BUIS put the sights at the "usual" height over bore. Strong pref that it not be QD, it adds weight. It seems like I may have found some out-of-production offerings, they looked lower but no info WRT dot height over bore.

Also: an associate recently bought the new S&W 2.0 "Metal". No plastic frame, it's aluminum and sofar it seems like a great pistol. It's optics ready coming with multiple adaptor plates. The one that fits the Venom is parallel and will not allow him to get the dot adjusted down to the point of impact. We have looked at a few aftermarket ones and the same problem applies. By my reckoning it calls for maybe 40 minutes of "downslope". 20 or 30 might do it. Not sure but I'm surprised if the Venom has "less" adjustment to it. Any comments / help? As with the above I've tried a few and don't want to keep buying and trying, I want to just find one that has actual info like, "X-MOA of downslope" or, "made to work with Venom / S&W combo".

This to me is one of the neatest options for a MRDS mount. Especially if using an RMR with the easy access to the battery. I don't have one though (yet ), so no "hands on" experience.

https://www.valhallatactical.com/ruk...e-offset-mount

[Ned Christiansen]

Thanks, all.

Yes, I am set on a backup for the backup. For the minimal weight of having flip-up offset irons, why not? May sound silly but dang, MRDS are so vulnerable. Both to knocks and.... dead batteries. Glad yours is holding up but I just see a lot of potential for hard knocks.

I mean, even "if only" for the standard offset height, forgetting about the co-witness, still, to me, makes it preferable.

Thanks Lobo, but I can see that it's too high. Also over-complicated for my application and since I am in buying-and-trying-and-friggin'-rejecting mode, too expensive too.

Bottom line here, I'm way too busy to make one. I could, but I really don't want to.

Is it really so wild an idea? I mean the Tango 6T on the gun is actually great at 1X but still can't compare with an MRDS for both-eyes-open close and fast. That 45 degree cant gets the scope out of the way and really opens up the field of view.

I will confess I'm working on theoretical here as much as anything; I'm no door-kicking, HALO-jumping badass, but do still shoot a little bit of competition and anyway the big thing making this a personal quest now is I can't believe no one else wants this and I feel the need to prove that everyone should want it!

So, Dear Santa, bring me an MRDS mount that:
Offers protection to the optic;
Is not QD because I don't want the weight;
Allows a centered co-witness with 45 degree flip-ups.
I've been naughty, this is true, but I will start being nice if you just bring the damned thing!

What do you mean, that's not how it works?

[Ned Christiansen]

Gonna try this, it looks very low:
https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/rebel-offset

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Trying to find the best price on a Midwest Industries AR-10 upper receiver rod (sku MI-308URR). MWI has it for $149.95. Found one for $106.29 at Hinterland Outfitters, but have never heard of them before.

[Vegas]

Trying to find the best price on a Midwest Industries AR-10 upper receiver rod (sku MI-308URR). MWI has it for $149.95. Found one for $106.29 at Hinterland Outfitters, but have never heard of them before.

I have ordered from Hinterland before. No issues with them.

[VIP3R 237]

Trying to find the best price on a Midwest Industries AR-10 upper receiver rod (sku MI-308URR). MWI has it for $149.95. Found one for $106.29 at Hinterland Outfitters, but have never heard of them before.

Hinterland is gtg

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Thanks viper & vegas