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    Someone else in Michigan did a permanently attached barrel shroud that allowed for the removal of the supressor:

    http://www.migunowners.org/forum/sho...=150731&page=4

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    Thanks everyone. For now I am thinking about a 14"ish barrel with a AAC permed brakeout or something similar, just to get it right at the 16" mark and then use the mini 4. That one only adds 2.8"s to the length so that would put me just over 18"s which while not the best is still ok. In talking to the attorney general I can get a curio and relic collector license and then attempt to register an upper that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sapper36 View Post
    I hate to ask this and I understand that it is a stupid question, however getting ready to retire and move to Michigan. They allow suppresors but no SBR. I have spoken with the attorney general there and I dont have to many options, I do have one but not to sure if that will work out. So my question is, can a can be permed to a barrel to bring it to the 16" mark? And how many problems would be associated with doing that? Thanks
    My brother lives in Michigan, and we built this upper for his 9mm AR to satisfy the 16" barrel mark.

    We had Adco make the adapter and perm attached the "muzzle device" with blind pinning to make the 16" mark. The suppressor (Trident-9) threads to the barrel under the "muzzle device." The actual barrel is about 9" and the muzzle device is long enough to bring the OAL to 16.25". With the trident-9 and the threaded adapter on it, it brings the barrel to 16.75".

    I'm sure a quick detach .223 can could be used in a similar fashion.

    Last edited by rjrivero; 03-10-12 at 11:46.

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    Correct. I also agree with TehLlama as well. If I had to jump through serious stupid hoops, then I would probably opt for a pinned 14.5" since weight and overall length are the goal.

    Quote Originally Posted by kmrtnsn View Post
    Agreed, Iraqgunz and I have talked about this matter before and I think I can safely say that we both agree (If he doesn't then I fully expect him to come in here and bitch slap me into correctness!) that 16" barrel is generally, the best all around barrel length for the vast majority of applications as it doesn't saddle the owner with one permanent configuration; as times changes and parts are improved a 16" owner can swap muzzle devices, gas blocks, etc. at will, with a minimum of fuss and for the majority of owners the small difference between 14.5" and 16" just isn't worth the pinning hassle. There are, however, times where a pinned muzzle device is the way to go and when someone just has to have the shortest, legal barrel length then pinning a device on a 14.5" is the only legal alternative. My can experience is limited. I am sure that there are as many brands as there are AR manufacturers but the only ones I have handled are the Surefires. If anyone makes a shorter can, please post what it is and educate us (me).



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    I had a 6920 cut to 10.7 inches or so and a Ranger 2 welded on. It had plenty of gas even with the .063" port. If I could do it again I'd use an MRP upper. Remember that you have to have access to the gas system. A moe or USGI handguard would work too. Mine is welded but the new Ranger 3 with inconel guts and wrench flats for pinning would be ideal. The length is a concern but 16" rifles with cans swing poorly. This thing is about the same length past the muzzle as a Surefire 212 but also about five ounces lighter because it's thread on. It's not ideal for classes but it sits by my bed and I shoot other rifles more.

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    I think the best solution for this is to not move into anti-gun states. Vote with your feet folks.

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