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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrodder636 View Post
    I find it odd that this law hasn't been changed or updated or repealed after all these years. Are FAs really that evil?
    I would imagine that would dramatically decrease the value of current machine guns if there was a law that allowed more into the registry... There would be some very pissed off owners...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LHS View Post
    "The NRA wants to make machine guns and grenade launchers into over-the-counter transactions."
    the bad thing is.... most dumb, uneducated, high and mighty, "citizen of the world" liberals believe that restricting the legal rights of non-offenders, somehow limits the amount of violent crimes committed by those who have no intentions of doing things legally....

    its typical bullshit, moronic, illogical fallacy, slippery slope jibber jabber...

    its like saying we'll cut down on DUI fatalities by not allowing cars.....

    the absurdity of their plight literally astounds me, I honestly believe liberalism is a mental health disorder and should be treated as such... and should be listed in the DSM IV as "Blinded By Rainbows Syndrome"

    they are so enamored with their own great ideas, how they will change the world, that they fail to see the actual reality of their doings... they only see what good "could" come, not the bad or what actually does occur, simply ignore all of that and focus entirely on what good it may possibly one day result in.... aka... they live in fantasy land
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    "The NRA wants to make machine guns and grenade launchers into over-the-counter transactions."
    if only that were true, by my observation the NRA wants to avoid MGs all together and stick with trying to say a civilian AK or AR should not be banned because its semi auto thus making in no different and the same kind of rifle as a remington 750.

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    All true, which is why we need to play the game to win. The anti-gunners did a masterful public relations job over 60+ years, gradually depriving us of our rights and conditioning the public to accept it as 'normal'. And you know what? It worked, until they got greedy and tried for too much, too fast. We should learn from their experiences, and copy what works, and avoid what backfired. That's the only way to win in the long term. Like a frog in a pot of water slowly brought to a boil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LHS View Post
    All true, which is why we need to play the game to win. The anti-gunners did a masterful public relations job over 60+ years, gradually depriving us of our rights and conditioning the public to accept it as 'normal'. And you know what? It worked, until they got greedy and tried for too much, too fast. We should learn from their experiences, and copy what works, and avoid what backfired. That's the only way to win in the long term. Like a frog in a pot of water slowly brought to a boil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Actually that is the NFA tax. The Special Occupation Tax is the tax paid by a FFL to be a dealer in NFA items. And it is typically $1000 or $500 depending upon the amount of business you do.
    I stand corrected. That's what I get for trying to post while bleary eyed!

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    We should learn from their experiences, and copy what works
    sneaking amendments into bills at the last moment when the amendment has little if anything to do with the bill yet the bill being important enough to pass by any means necessary seems to do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ak44 View Post
    I would imagine that would dramatically decrease the value of current machine guns if there was a law that allowed more into the registry... There would be some very pissed off owners...
    And that would be another group of people who should be kicked so hard they'd be wearing their asses for a hat.

    One of my best friends owns a Class 3 collection that wouldn't look shabby even when compared to Reed Knight's toy rooms, and he is solidly behind the idea of a repeal. If he wasn't, that would make him an asshole, and I wouldn't have him for a friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    There's nothing wrong with thinking it so long as you figure out why it is wrong. It is certainly something a normal person considers as they ponder spending 20k on a single firearm. I can't fault anyone for not wanting to take a bath in devalued firearms where your collectible $20k machine gun becomes a used $1k machine gun because the law changed.

    It actually takes a special person to "not care" because they can now buy 20 new machine guns for what 1 used to cost. Sadly I think everyones investments are pretty safe.
    I disagree. If you're part of a group of assholes who actually fight actively against repeal (naming no names, but you know exactly who I'm talking about) because they'd LOSE MONEY, then you don't give a **** about what's right, as long as you can make money. THAT attitude is exactly what got this country into the position it's in now, and as far as I'm concerned it's a real litmus test of 'are you really a 2nd Amendment supporter, or just another rich asshole who can afford toys, and doesn't want his rice bowl broken'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuietShootr View Post
    I disagree. If you're part of a group of assholes who actually fight actively against repeal (naming no names, but you know exactly who I'm talking about) because they'd LOSE MONEY, then you don't give a **** about what's right, as long as you can make money. THAT attitude is exactly what got this country into the position it's in now, and as far as I'm concerned it's a real litmus test of 'are you really a 2nd Amendment supporter, or just another rich asshole who can afford toys, and doesn't want his rice bowl broken'.
    I'd trade the value of my RR M-16 for the ability to purchase new, reasonably priced MG's in a heartbeat.

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