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    i certainly need more experience with my irons...when i was able to afford optics, thats what i started shooting. i can shoot decent with the irons but i know there is a lot more for me to learn

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    Most folks find aperture sights easier to shoot than open sights.

    Your sight picture should look like this:



    Are you focusing on the front sight post? The basic fundamentals for sighting are the same for aperture and open sights. Good groups can be had by either sight:

    A little off topic, a 15 shot 100 yd group with a Type 38 Arisaka (it was too nice not to shoot yesterday)


    Try snapping in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody knows View Post
    Okay gotcha, I thought that kinda sounded strange lol.
    What about the aperture is giving you a problem?
    I'm shooting a 1/7 and xm193. I don't feel like I'm getting a consistent anchor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Dan View Post
    Most folks find aperture sights easier to shoot than open sights.

    Your sight picture should look like this:



    Are you focusing on the front sight post? The basic fundamentals for sighting are the same for aperture and open sights. Good groups can be had by either sight:

    A little off topic, a 15 shot 100 yd group with a Type 38 Arisaka (it was too nice not to shoot yesterday)


    Try snapping in.
    That picture there on the sights is what I've been looking for. Thank you very much.

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    No problem!

    It is far easier to show that graphic than try to explain it.

    ETA- the left image is a center hold... you might want to start with a 6 o'clock hold shown on the right. It will be easier to obtain a consistent sight picture.
    Last edited by Deputy Dan; 03-09-12 at 19:13. Reason: added info

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    That's not all that bad for 75 yards with irons.
    With a 100 yard zero you will be about 1/4 inch low at 75.

    I would recommend going with a different target though, here's what I use:
    http://www.reloadbench.com/pdf/files...0on%20Grid.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody knows View Post
    Is there a particular reason you need a 100 yard zero? Because depending on you situation,you may be better off with a 50 yard,or maybe even a 25 yard zero. Just a thought.
    The reason why I want to zero at 100yds is that I have read where a lot of classes want that. So after I get my zero down I will shoot from 25, 50 and so forth to learn my hold over's and under's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    That's not all that bad for 75 yards with irons.
    With a 100 yard zero you will be about 1/4 inch low at 75.

    I would recommend going with a different target though, here's what I use:
    http://www.reloadbench.com/pdf/files...0on%20Grid.pdf
    Thank you for posting the target I will start using this now. I want to purchase an aim point T-1 eventually but first I want to get to a good level of skill with irons before I move to a scope. Don't get me wrong I use a scope for hunting and such but, I want to learn the irons pretty bad.

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    Also make sure you are using the small aperature for zeroing and precision shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridgerunner70 View Post
    The reason why I want to zero at 100yds is that I have read where a lot of classes want that. So after I get my zero down I will shoot from 25, 50 and so forth to learn my hold over's and under's.
    Quick note:
    I definately prefer a 100 meter zero for optics, but I do a different zero for irons.
    I zero 2" high at 100 meters (or yards).
    It reduces the necessity to hold-over out to 200, where the target can be obscured by the front sight.
    I actually picked up the concept from Paul Howe (article here:
    http://www.combatshootingandtactics....llpictures.pdf ) though IIRC he zeroes 3" high at 100 yards.
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