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Colt is the largest manufacture of M4's & M16's for MIL/LE, they should have more than adequate milling equipment, the Colt P0923 APC (Advanced Piston Carbine) which is for MIL/LE other than the auto capabilities, the LE6940P is the same APC. & of course Colts DI AR's out sell their FIRST large production piston system for MIL/LE/Civvi, it's NEW. Milling a one piece carrier will almost insure no failures, as I have said before it's a fact that a solid one piece strike face on the carrier is stronger than any two piece design, it would be better for Colt in the long run. If Colt wants to build a PISTON OP AR, then they need to decide if they want a DI or Piston op system, not a iffy in between piston system with DI components.
LWRCi has quality over Colt, quality takes time, if a DI gun can have it's gas key come loose or break from gasses, what do you think a hardened steel op rod striking the face of the carriers strike face will do, on a two piece carrier? LWRCi learned threw trial & error first using a staked strike face, then dovetailing & staking & still having strike faces come loose & breaking, since they have switched to a one piece design they have not had any issues to my knowledge, as well as on my own LWRCi M6A2. If LWRCi had a larger manufacturing plant & more workers that could put the same quality in to the IC they would be the new US military assault rifle. As for AK's have you ever herd of a problem with a barrel coming loose or breaking off at the trunnion since 1946? There are over 170+ million AK & variants around the world, it's a PROVEN system. A two piece carrier for a piston op AR & even DI AR's is a WELL know issue, that is why Colt is one of the only manufactures to make one.
Last edited by Hungarian_Legionnaire; 07-02-12 at 17:28.
you clearly dont have a grasp on how these are made.
the DI gas carrier key just has some screws holding it together.
the 6940P has 2 hardened steel inserts that are assembled using a pneumatic press.
I ask again when was the last time you saw an AK-47 barrel fall off? its held on by the same type of pins as the 6940P uses in its carrier key.
as good as LWRC is they wouldnt be the new Military rifle either, hate to say it but a .1% increase over a good M4A1 doesnt warrant the double to triple price tag. just because LWRC couldnt make a good 2 piece carrier doesnt mean others cant. i mean cmon a dovetail and 2 screw??? that was meant to fail, 2 hardened steel pins that have a shear strength of 600+lbs that are pneumatically installed wont fail.
Last edited by sinlessorrow; 07-02-12 at 17:33.
Magic_Salad0892 i agree 100%, what the hell is the Hybrid Piston System?
and Hungarian_Legionnaire, Do you work for LWRCi or something?
This i have problems with, I have seen enough lwrci's have problems with piston and spring cups failing under low round counts to not have great confidence in their product. While Colt is not perfect by any means, there is not another american company out there with as much combat record than Colt. And the LWRCi is not the same piston design as the AK, the AK uses a long stroke set up vs LWRCi's short stroke, and most importantly the Ak's carrier rides on RAILS. If someone could figure out how to engineer the AR's bcg to ride on rails then i think we'd have a winner.
Last edited by VIP3R 237; 07-02-12 at 17:51.
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