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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post


    look Hungarian, you like your LWRC and thats great, but the hK416 is the most widely used piston AR-15 and the Norwegian military alone makes that so since its their standard issued rifle.

    that said Colt has been making piston AR-15's longer than any other company, if anyone can make it work they can.

    the press fit pin method is a valid method, the pins wont shear, and they wont wiggle loose, they just cant.
    I own a H&K MR556A1, as I said in my last post I don't like one rifle/company over another, LWRCi was just an example, I could say the same for H&K, which is an amazing piston op AR. Also I am from Hungary, i.e. my username I don't need to be told to "listen" to you.
    When/what Colt piston op AR has been sold to civvies or been in use with any MIL/LE? The CM901 & APC is the first one i've ever know to make it past being a prototype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hungarian_Legionnaire View Post
    I own a H&K MR556A1, as I said in my last post I don't like one rifle/company over another, LWRCi was just an example, I could say the same for H&K, which is an amazing piston op AR. Also I am from Hungary, i.e. my username I don't need to be told to "listen" to you.
    When/what Colt piston op AR has been sold to civvies or been in use with any MIL/LE? The CM901 & APC is the first one i've ever know to make it past being a prototype.
    the APC is the only one ever offered to civilians but every piston rifle they have made has been past the prototype stages and they have all had production models for testing.

    Again the two piece carrier usin press fit pins was used inthe SCAR trials and it never once had issues.

    You can say they will come loose till your blue in the face, it doesnt make it true and testing has shown it to not be true.

    This is the earliest piston AR- 1969 Colt 703, tested against the M16A1 and was found to not offer any tangible improvement.



    Then there was the Type-C In the SCAR trials(2003) The FN entry beat it but it did complete testing.



    Then there was the Colt M5(2006).



    Now we have the 6940P, it is currently in the IC competition.

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    Is their any difference between the Colt M5 & APC/ LE6940P? They look very similar, also the Colt 703 looks like a great design, basically a copy of the AK47's piston system... too bad they decided to go DI you know that saying about DI AR's "don't shit where you eat", hot gasses, unburnt powder & carbon fouling going in to the receivers trigger ect. is the AR's bigest design fault IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hungarian_Legionnaire View Post
    Is their any difference between the Colt M5 & APC/ LE6940P? They look very similar, also the Colt 703 looks like a great design, basically a copy of the AK47's piston system... too bad they decided to go DI you know that saying about DI AR's "don't shit where you eat", hot gasses, unburnt powder & carbon fouling going in to the receivers trigger ect. is the AR's bigest design fault IMO.

    Main difference is the barrel the 2006 rifle had the M4 barrel the new 6940p(M4 Enhanced IC) has the A1 barrel. Also from what i can tell the 6940P op rod is slightly larger in diameter. The Type-C was a well designed winning piston system so they refined it into what became the LE1020, and now it is called the 6940P.

    Wanna see something interesting??

    This is the original M5 design then they chose to go monolithic, this also predates the HK416




    Looks familiar huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hungarian_Legionnaire View Post
    Is their any difference between the Colt M5 & APC/ LE6940P? They look very similar, also the Colt 703 looks like a great design, basically a copy of the AK47's piston system... too bad they decided to go DI you know that saying about DI AR's "don't shit where you eat", hot gasses, unburnt powder & carbon fouling going in to the receivers trigger ect. is the AR's bigest design fault IMO.
    IMHO, better than a piston system. There are several examples of DI ARs going 10k+ withought cleaning, and maintaining reliability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed L. View Post
    From Larry Vickers on the subject:
    I didn't say the 416 was a piece of crap. Even if I want it to suck. It doesn't. It's a good rifle.

    However:

    It DID have problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    This is the original M5 design then they chose to go monolithic, this also predates the HK416
    Link? Proof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyM4 View Post
    Link? Proof?
    This is the best I can do a prototype picture. The earliest pics are from 2003.



    Im honestly not sure when the M5 became the LE1020, i have seen the M5 demo'd at the same time as the LE1020 and then in later years gone and the LE1020 is now called the M5. It gets rsther confusing, but the M5 came first.

    I have even seen the M5 with a delta ring assembly which i always assumed came first followed by the one linked but who knows.

    So did the delta ring M5 or the non delta ring M5 come first?....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    I didn't say the 416 was a piece of crap. Even if I want it to suck. It doesn't. It's a good rifle.

    However:

    It DID have problems.
    And the M16 FOW did not? Weapons are man made, and will eventually break.

    Btw, how many rounds do you have through one? Have you seen any guns break yourself? 416's that is.

    I have talked about the issues we have had, not major ones, and HK has been very helpful in terms of fixing the issues for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hungarian_Legionnaire View Post
    They are still used by US Army's OD-D & I was unaware that the DEA had stopped using the M6A2, LWRCi clames that the DEA FAST Teams still use their rifles.
    You seem like a decent dude trying to pass your experience and knowledge to others, but you are coming across negatively and in several instances are incorrect in your absolute statements.

    You need to take a step or two back, reevaluate your approach and check your facts.
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