Natural Disasters and Realistic Relief times.

[PA PATRIOT]

I know in the past we have debated Man Inspired SHTF scenarios and how those events would affect everyday life. Recently I have been exploring other possible long term disasters which could have extended relief times.

Now SHTF and Disaster prepping have many similarities but in some cases Natural Disasters tend to wipe out your primary prep's and shelter in short order.

So my question is this, what secondary preparation's do you have if any if your primary home and prep's was leveled by a Hurricane, Twister, Earth Quake, Flood, Volcanic Eruption or a big rock falling on your address leaving you with nothing but the clothes on your back.

As we all known FEMA has a piss poor record providing disaster relief to any large scale event so the main theme for this thread is does anyone store secondary short term prep's with in a reasonable distance to cover the loss of the primary residence and stores.

[Stangman]

As far as time frame is concerned I'd consider the Katrina time frame as a minimum, not a maximum, expectation of relief.

[PA PATRIOT]

I have been looking into a idea of using 55 gallon drums which have screw off lids to store camping gear, clothes and freeze dried foods and storing them in a home made dug in rebarred re-enforced concrete storage box just big enough to fit four to six 55 gallon drums.

Now cost will be a factor with using concrete especially if I buy a certified mix so I will also be looking into brick and cinder brick alternatives.

Hopefully if I place it on high ground with in sight of my primary home I would have a very basic back up shelter, clothes, food, first aid, water and ammo for his/her primary carry pistols if my main prep's and home are trashed.

Over Kill?

My closest bug out location is 150 miles away so if my vehicles are also wrecked I maybe forced to stick it out at least for several days before FEMA provides little if any help at all or other family is able to relocate us.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Phila I wouldn't say you are going over kill. IMHO one can never do enough to ensure their families well being.

Back in '06 on the 100 year anniversary of The Great 1906 San Francisco Earthquake I watched an interview of the then mayor Gavin Newsom. He talked about this website, 72hours.org that the city of San Francisco put together for its residents to help them prepare for the inevitable. This was a liberal Democrat telling people straight up that they would be on their own for AT LEAST the first 72hrs after a major Earthquake or similar calamity. This was not long after Katrina mind you.

Working for a municipal goverment myself I know just how unprepared governing bodies are for anything out of the norm.

[Beat Trash]

While the idea of getting the population to have a 72 hour kit is admirable, I think that 72 hours is a joke.

Katrina showed that two weeks minimum is more realistic.

[MustangGreg66]

Phila I wouldn't say you are going over kill. IMHO one can never do enough to ensure their families well being.

Back in '06 on the 100 year anniversary of The Great 1906 San Francisco Earthquake I watched an interview of the then mayor Gavin Newsom. He talked about this website, 72hours.org that the city of San Francisco put together for its residents to help them prepare for the inevitable. This was a liberal Democrat telling people straight up that they would be on their own for AT LEAST the first 72hrs after a major Earthquake or similar calamity. This was not long after Katrina mind you.

Working for a municipal goverment myself I know just how unprepared governing bodies are for anything out of the norm.

Thanks for the link. I livein the East Bay (SF bay area) and haddn't seen that website. I think I'll go through it a bit and see how what I have compares.

I think I'm going to have to move the location of my supplys. Most of my camping gear and firearms are in the basement... if the big one happens and the house falls on it all, we'd be pretty screwed.

[rkba01]

does anyone store secondary short term prep's with in a reasonable distance to cover the loss of the primary residence and stores.

I have a bunch of prep stuff in my truck and I keep a reasonable stash of stuff at work. But that's it, really.

[PA PATRIOT]

The whole house being destroyed scenario non SHTF I threw at the wife today had her asking what if anything we could do to hedge are prep's. She was on board quickly with a mini fortified storage bunker but later wanted the storage to be the size of a small room.

This opened a whole new can of worms not to mention the cost to construct such a structure.

It appears she is thinking more of a storm shelter then Disaster storage.

I see what my summer holds for me.

[JStor]

An alternative could be one of those heavy steel storage units anchored to the ground. Various companies use them for shipping products by sea and rail, and the chemical/ag companies use them to store hazardous materials. A guy on another site made one into a hunting cabin by spraying insulation on the walls and cutting windows, etc. I've seen them for sale for under two grand, but of course you'd need a trailer to transport them.