Improving H.K. triggers?

**kozaki** · 03-17-12, 17:47

I have read/heard many complaints about the triggers on H.K. pistols.

Why doesn't somebody just design a better trigger for these guns? Is there something inherent in the design of an H.K. pistol to prevent such a thing from happening?

**balance** · 03-17-12, 18:05

That is my only complaint about H&K pistols.

Gray Guns offers trigger jobs for these pistols, and more than a few people have sent their H&K pistols to him for his services. I have yet to hear of an issue caused by him improving the trigger, so I have to assume that there is room in the design for improvement, without effecting performance. H&K would have a lot more civilian customers if they just improved this aspect of their pistols.

http://grayguns.com/gunsmith-service...-koch-pistols/

**gtmtnbiker98** · 03-17-12, 18:39

Train through the trigger shortcomings. It is the best method.

**Cazwell** · 03-17-12, 19:14

What's wrong with them?

**C4IGrant** · 03-17-12, 19:32

Originally Posted by Cazwell

What's wrong with them?

Long trigger pulls, heavy, etc.

Can you shoot them well? Yes. Do you have to work at it more? Yes.

C4

**PhilM** · 03-17-12, 19:57

Originally Posted by C4IGrant

Long trigger pulls, heavy, etc.

Can you shoot them well? Yes. Do you have to work at it more? Yes.

C4

Ditto. Dry fire drills are essential for any pistol. After that, 25 yard bulls help a lot. After that, scary accurate in my opinion. Tremendous platform, but practice makes perfect.

**Battle*Hound** · 03-17-12, 20:28

Originally Posted by gtmtnbiker98

Train through the trigger shortcomings. It is the best method.

I completely agree

**Cazwell** · 03-17-12, 23:08

I've heard one of the lem versions is very similar to the triggers on kahr pistols. Is that an accurate representation? Are they as long a pull, but as smooth as the kahr?

**LDM** · 03-18-12, 09:30

Originally Posted by Cazwell

I've heard one of the lem versions is very similar to the triggers on kahr pistols. Is that an accurate representation? Are they as long a pull, but as smooth as the kahr?

Since I have two H&K LEM pistols and two Kahrs, I'll give you my thoughts on this question.
They are similar, but they are different. They are more similar than they are different, however.
Both have a long pull.
Kahr is much smoother and more like a very good double action revolver.
The H&K LEM does have more distinct stages to its pull travel. Initial travel is lighter (just trigger return spring pressure) than later stage.
That said, I do not find transitioning between these two systems to be a problem. Therefore I find my Kahr PM9 as a compact solution, and H&K P30 as full size solution, to work well together.