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    Question Help me choose an 9mm SMG.

    I bought my first select fire weapon last year: a Colt M-16A1. It's a great weapon and definitely easy to maintain and obtain replacement parts. Now I'm looking for a 9mm SMG for: indoor use, a different flavor; sound suppresion; and reduced ammo costs. I am looking at three models: H&K MP5 (~16K), UZI (~7-8K), and the MAC type machine pistols (~4K). I've shot them all and all were fun. The H&K was the best. However, I am not sure which one would be the easiest to maintain (i.e. availability of parts & mags and ease of me doing it myself). Any suggestions and any suggestions on books/references that are worthwhile to obtain for each weapon type? Thanks.

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    of all, the UZI will have the least accessible parts chain.

    The MAC is ok if you just want to get your foot in the door of NFA's, but I really wouldn't use that thing for HD..... those things were designed to clear elevators.... once the doors open just hold the trigger down and spray everything inside until there's nothing left alive.... the rate of fire is just too high to use in an HD role, IMO.

    The MP5 is the only logical, and smart choice of the bunch, however like you state previously... price is an issue.

    However, if I were you and were seriously considering dropping coin on one, I would purchase a registered auto sear.... I think Autoweapons has one for 15.5k, then you are free to use it how you see fit (any HK weapon), rather than just a registered receiver MP5 where you are stuck with just that weapon....
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    UZI

    HK MP5 would be the choice ! UZI is just like an AK 47 in the submachine gun world!. Cheap in price and the parts and the way it works is simple. wiki it!!! good luck buddy hope you find somthing you enjoy!! .

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    Im a Colt SMG fan, Id love to have one with a flat top upper and a T-1. I like the MP5, but not so much the cost associated with it. MAC11 with Lage upper is probably what I would get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.Franklin View Post
    Im a Colt SMG fan...
    Actually that's not a bad idea... a Colt SMG is another option as well.... OP since you have a select-fire lower, just purchase a 9mm upper and mag block... and there you go.... probably a more viable platform than the MP5, for about 1/20th the cost.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reagans Rascals View Post
    Actually that's not a bad idea... a Colt SMG is another option as well.... OP since you have a select-fire lower, just purchase a 9mm upper and mag block... and there you go.... probably a more viable platform than the MP5, for about 1/20th the cost.....
    this is what I was thinking too ,You just need to get a upper and Block all one weapon . the Colt 9MM is a good platform


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    A WW2 Mp40 can be found for about 9-11k. Neat piece of history too.

    Oops, just saw the sound suppressor part
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    Cheapest way to go. Here is mine; integrally suppressed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul D View Post
    I bought my first select fire weapon last year: a Colt M-16A1. It's a great weapon and definitely easy to maintain and obtain replacement parts. Now I'm looking for a 9mm SMG for: indoor use, a different flavor; sound suppresion; and reduced ammo costs. I am looking at three models: H&K MP5 (~16K), UZI (~7-8K), and the MAC type machine pistols (~4K). I've shot them all and all were fun. The H&K was the best. However, I am not sure which one would be the easiest to maintain (i.e. availability of parts & mags and ease of me doing it myself). Any suggestions and any suggestions on books/references that are worthwhile to obtain for each weapon type? Thanks.

    I own all of them.

    For practical applications the MP5 is the best, followed by the Uzi and then the Mac 10.

    For long term serviceability the Uzi is best, followed by the Mac 10 and then the MP5.

    There are many problems related to "transferable" MP5s which are all conversions that began life as a HK94, there are no pre68 factory imports. The most reliable are probably the registered trigger box conversions done by DLO as they use factory MP5 sears and sear trip levers. The next best option is the registered receiver conversions which use factory swing down trigger packs. Registered sear conversions, even the best ones like Qualified, use a non factory setup that can easily result in timing problems. These are also all friction sear setups vs. factory roller sear setups.

    Uzis also come in a variety of flavors from registered bolt to registered receiver conversions but these conversions are a lot more forgivable in terms of performance issues than HK94 to MP5 conversions. The ability to swap bolts and barrels without tools means you can probably run an Uzi for centuries. The main drawback of the Uzi is it's weight.

    Mac 10s are of course factory machine guns with the ergonomics of a brick, a flimsy folding stock and a excessively high cyclic rate. Many of the problems of the Mac 10 can be corrected with LAGE uppers but they still leave a bit to be desired. They have the advantage of being available in greater numbers and thus more affordable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reagans Rascals View Post
    of all, the UZI will have the least accessible parts chain.

    How do you come up with that? SARCO has had complete Uzi parts kits for as long as I can remember and still do.
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