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    Another thought that might influence you. Barrel replacement, on many open bolt SMGs the barrel removal is very easy and can be changed out even at the range by a nub but other guns will require an armorer with specialized tooling. Unfortunately, many people will get a squib in there SMG that will cycle the action and will have a bulged barrel soon afterwards. When this happens on a MP5 or Thompson you will need a trained SMG smith to replace it. On a Sten, Swedish K, Uzi etc. you just unscrew the barrel nut and swap the barrel out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmorris View Post
    I do not own any full auto guns and probably never will but the MP5 seems like the only logical way to go. That's a fine, fine weapon, my friend.
    I own a Lage'd M-11/9, but if I ever pick up another it would be an M-16 or RR AR-type... that or perhaps an FNC if BATFE would allow us to install the same sear in a SCAR.

    I don't see the appeal of the HK type full autos- even though I have at least one host in each caliber.

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    I owned a Mini Uzi and currently own a M-16 and a Fleming Sear and of the options you listed I'd choose the MP5. While a 9mm upper is a viable option for your M-16 it always seemed rather choppy to me. The MP5 on the other hand is smooth, light and reliable. It's quieter when suppressed than the '16 too.

    My MP5 was built from a MP5-N parts kit and a LSC flat and I haven't had any trouble with a couple thousand rounds down range. My 5yo loves it too.
    http://youtu.be/1xtLIzIxYrA

    And Vs. the M-16
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    Thanks for all your replies. I've dropped the MAC type guns from the list. I will research the other recommended platforms. I've noticed that the market for the HK MP5s is kinda tight. Not a lot out there for sale right now.

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    MP5, it's THE SMG. You won't regret it...
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    Paul,

    Mongo gave you a very good list there.

    I prefer the open bolt, lower cyclic rate SMG's. They are just fun to shoot. You get hits!

    You get alot of bang for the buck w the Sterling and Swedish K.

    Hardly any transferable Baretta M12's, but they are one of my favorites.

    The HK's are great semi auto and suppressed, but have fewer hits per burst than the SMG's with a circa 550 spm cyclic rate.
    Last edited by Andrew C. Tillman; 03-28-12 at 01:34.

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    In my opinion, the M11/9 with a Lage upper is as good as an MP5 or Uzi for much less money. It is also the most plentiful subgun in the NFA market with spares being produced to this day and lots of 3rd party support. You can't beat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marines42 View Post
    In my opinion, the M11/9 with a Lage upper is as good as an MP5 or Uzi for much less money. It is also the most plentiful subgun in the NFA market with spares being produced to this day and lots of 3rd party support. You can't beat it.

    "as good as an MP5" for what?

    For making a "brrrrrrpt" noise and putting a smile on your face? Sure just as good. In fact it does it far more economically than the MP5.

    For first shot placement? Hardly, this is why the closed bolt MP5 replaced every open bolt SMG out there including the extremely well made Swedish K.

    Now it is an absolute fact that at the Knob Creek subgun competition M-10s with lage uppers often take first place. So I'd hardly decree the M-10 to be the useless POS some have suggested they are. But Knob Creek shoots aren't exactly the same as situations where you see SWAT and special forces employing SMGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marines42 View Post
    In my opinion, the M11/9 with a Lage upper is as good as an MP5 or Uzi for much less money. It is also the most plentiful subgun in the NFA market with spares being produced to this day and lots of 3rd party support. You can't beat it.
    No it is not "as good". Period

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixit69 View Post
    No it is not "as good". Period
    You are absolutely correct. In the arena of subgun matches the Lage Max-11 is better.

    The Lage Mfg. products, Max-10, Max-11 or Max31, win more subgun matches than any other sub-machine gun around here. It also does very well in other matches that I am aware of. (Lage also makes a .22 kit for the M-11 and Max-11.

    The MP-5s do not do well in out matches.

    We do have a Beretta M-12, Carl Gustav M45s (tube guns) and many others that shoot in our matches. Sterling's are few around here but function well.

    As I and others have previously posted, it depends on what you want to do with the gun.

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