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    Gen4 Glock 17 Malfunction

    I recently bought a New Gen4 17 and outta about 300 rounds only had this one weird malfunction. I was shooting Saturday and towards the end of my Range session I had Loaded one round into chamber by hand without a Magazine in the gun when i shot it the Spent casing flipped end down the Slide closed on the primer end of the Case. I was shooting Federal Range and Target 115GR FMJ 9mm RT9115. I never seen this before so I tried to see if it would do it again a few times but ejected fine. here is a few pictures of the malfucntion.





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    Did you limp wrist it?
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    Most folks say that most pistols will not fully cycle when fired without a magazine. I've only tried it in a 2 or 3 of our Glocks and they did. I need to remember to document which ones will and which won't as I think it was Platoon Daddy asking for feedback on this on another thread.
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    Don't load a round into the chamber by hand and drop the slide on it. It isn't good for the extractor and you can break it.

    Some guns, will have ejection failures if there is no magazine in the firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Altitude View Post
    Don't load a round into the chamber by hand and drop the slide on it. It isn't good for the extractor and you can break it.

    Some guns, will have ejection failures if there is no magazine in the firearm.
    You're going to be hard pressed to break an extractor in a Glock or M&P like that.

    A 1911, perhaps but a modern service weapon? Probably not.

    There is still no reason to breach load a semi auto so i do agree with you on that.

    Now, to the OP, yes, that is a WEIRD malfunction but its not considering how widespread the issues are with recent production Glocks.

    Your extractor lost its grip on the case rim at some point during the extraction cycle and the case essentially tumbled in your ejection port and was pinned by the slide as the gun returned to battery.

    The follower in the mag or the next round in the magazine acts as a buffer to the spent casing so generally speaking you would either stove pipe or the round would be kicked free by your ejector.

    SOME glocks will hold the case rim tightly against the breechface without a magazine in the gun and WILL eject the round positively. Others, will not and the spent casing will tumble out of the magazine well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Altitude View Post
    Don't load a round into the chamber by hand and drop the slide on it. It isn't good for the extractor and you can break it.

    Some guns, will have ejection failures if there is no magazine in the firearm.
    Not a Glock. Maybe a 1911.

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    I didn't Limp Wrist the gun i was just figuring it was because there was no magazine in the gun. I did try to limp Wrist earlier it to see if it would cause a malfunction but functioned flawlessly so I'm Pretty happy with the gun so far.

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    My Gen 3 Glocks will not eject rounds without a magazine present. They fall right through the mag well. Ive never had a malf like that, but I could see how it might happen.

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    It's a weird malfunction because you were doing weird shit with your gun.

    Load it with the magazine and shoot it with the magazine in it and it'll work right.

    Don't worry about it.

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    Are the first three pictures "the" malfunction of which you are describing, or a recreation of the malfunction?
    Last edited by RyanS; 03-27-12 at 13:57.

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