New 9mm pistol recommendation

[Clay]

A coworker asked me today what new pistol he should buy for CCW use, and I have to say I was hesitant to give a recommendation. The last three pistols I've bought have been Glock's and I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy a new 9mm Glock, or M&P for that matter, based on my recent experiences and the reading I've been doing on the various forums and blogs.

What new 9mm pistols seem to be doing well?

Thanks,

Clay

[RD62]

Buy a used Glock 9mm.

They are cheap, abundant, and currently more reliable then NIB.

AIM Surplus currently has Gen 2 Glock 199mm police trade ins.

If I hadn't just ordered an LMT MWS I'd snag one myself.

[sarge1967]

Check out the Walther PPQ. Great pistol!

[Sensei]

In order of preference excluding Glock or M&P:

1) PPQ
2) P30
3) FNS

[sarge1967]

In order of preference excluding Glock or M&P:

1) PPQ
2) P30
3) FNS

All great recommendations!

[Gadfly]

We have quite a few Glock 26's and Glock 17's bought as personal purchase by some of our officers. About 25 or so Gen 4s... Zero issues. I know that a lot of people report problems with Gen 4 guns, but we have yet to have any issue pop up with the new guns over the past year. I have yet to see a malfunction on one.

Granted, with our shooting qualifications/round counts, these guns only have about 400 rounds through them if they only shoot the bare minimum. I can not say if they practice more on their own. Not sure if it matters, but duty ammo issued for quals is all 124grn +p Speer Lawman and Gold Dots. No cheap or low power ammo. (I would have expected them to all self destruct given some range reports I have seen.)

I would take a chance on Glock. Assuming the correct recoil spring is in place.

[PrivateCitizen]

Internet hype over either the M&P or Glocks being unserviceable is just a truck load of nonsense. It has no place here.

ANY pistol should be vetted as a self defense primary. If that means you spend $18 on a lone wolf extractor etc … so what? Or a $9 spring? BFD.

All this gnashing over less than the cost of one day at the range is absurd.

A Glock or M&P can be verified on a shoot and fixes are a KNOWN. Get one, get it ready, and run it.

That the dialog drifts selecting some unproven replacement make (sans perhaps the P30) is the bigger bowl of dumb, if you ask me.

[mallowpufft]

I've got an M&P 9c that has functioned perfectly. I've put a few hundred rounds through a buddies 4th gen glock w/o issue.
I'm looking at an LCR for my summer time carry. Smoothest trigger I've felt on a compact revolver and I've no qualms about the effectiveness of .38 at the ranges I'm concerned with.
If I was doing it all over I'd pick up the PPQ or a full size M&P and have the grip cut down for the compact mags and call it the greatest thing in my pocket since that party in college when a drunken nursing student got friendly.

[Clay]

I'm not sure that all the verified problems that Glock and S&W pistols are having constitute internet hype, nor the responses many are getting from said companies. Glock "may" have addressed their problem with a new ejector, if you can get one, regardless of whether your ship your gun back to them or not. I'm not aware of S&W offering any kind of fix for the accuracy problems many have had.

I'm also not willing to say "BFD" to basically rebuilding a new pistol using aftermarket parts in order to get the thing running.

[Scar face]

Have you ever shoot a +p load and feel exactly like shooting a normal pressure load?

Enter HK P30.

I don't want to sound like a fanboy, and don't want you and your friend to take my words for it. Go hold one, you'll fall in love. Then, go shoot one and decide if the gun is right for you.

As far as reliability goes, HK is one of a very few that hasn't goofed off like many manufactures do as of late. Go check it out, I'm not kidding you!