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    pictures of the burnishing caused by LT mounts

    I need to buy a scope mount. Sure, I'd like to eliminate any gouging of my upper by the mount, but I'm not sure if I want to buy ADM. Could I get some pictures of this so called gouging, or is it that burnishing, caused by LT mounts? The way some describe it, you'd think it would remove half the width of the rail with every closure of the levers, and others say it is only a slight polishing where it contacts. I'd like to see pictures of what is really happening. I'm hoping that it is something that I can live with, because it sounds like the LT mounts are top notch.

    Accurate, high res, pictures from different angles would be appreciated. Thanks.


    Roy

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    Quote Originally Posted by royta View Post
    I need to buy a scope mount. Sure, I'd like to eliminate any gouging of my upper by the mount, but I'm not sure if I want to buy ADM. Could I get some pictures of this so called gouging, or is it that burnishing, caused by LT mounts? The way some describe it, you'd think it would remove half the width of the rail with every closure of the levers, and others say it is only a slight polishing where it contacts. I'd like to see pictures of what is really happening. I'm hoping that it is something that I can live with, because it sounds like the LT mounts are top notch.

    Accurate, high res, pictures from different angles would be appreciated. Thanks.


    Roy

    The VERY SMALL amount of of anodizing, if any at all, that is removed from using larue mount is MINISCULE in comparison to the piece of mind you will have knowing your shit isn't ******* **.

    Key word to remember is anodizing, it is not "gouging" the rail.

    Dont worry about it, you might have opened up a can of worms with your post, but the $20 you save with ADM (unproven system) is not worth it as of now.

    ETA: if you are still worried about...take your rifle and scratch it with a screw driving right down the top and bottom of your receivers...then you will not have anything to worry about...Its a tool...nothing more nothing less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek_Connor View Post
    The VERY SMALL amount of of anodizing, if any at all, that is removed from using larue mount is MINISCULE in comparison to the piece of mind you will have knowing your shit isn't ****ing up.

    Key word to remember is anodizing, it is not "gouging" the rail.

    Dont worry about it, you might have opened up a can of worms with your post, but the $20 you save with ADM (unproven system) is not worth it as of now.

    ETA: if you are still worried about...take your rifle and scratch it with a screw driving right down the top and bottom of your receivers...then you will not have anything to worry about...Its a tool...nothing more nothing less
    Why don't you just take your brand new vehicle and dent the door with a hammer, then you won't be afraid to drive it down the road. Give me a break.

    I've never seen a LT mount in person, so I'm not able to see what happens to the rail when the levers are tightened. If I knew somebody local, I wouldn't have created this thread. As long as people can just follow the request of the original thread, then there will be no creation of worm cans. I am asking for pictures, not opinions.

    I don't want to sound like a jerk, but my goal is not to start a worm can. I am asking for pictures so I can see the marks myself. Like I said, I don't know anybody who has any LT mounts. You're very opinions are what gets people all heated up about this whole ADM vs. LT thing. Let's keep this thread civil and let's see some pictures, so idiots like myself can see for ourselves whether an LT mount will be a problem for our rifles, whether they be tools, safe queens, whatever.

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    The LaRue mounts do knock off a TINY bit of anodizing off the receiver. It's not even anything to lose sleep over. People are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    Here's close up pics of my 3gun rifle, where I use a LaRue SPR-E mount.




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    Quote Originally Posted by royta View Post
    Why don't you just take your brand new vehicle and dent the door with a hammer, then you won't be afraid to drive it down the road. Give me a break.

    I've never seen a LT mount in person, so I'm not able to see what happens to the rail when the levers are tightened. If I knew somebody local, I wouldn't have created this thread. As long as people can just follow the request of the original thread, then there will be no creation of worm cans. I am asking for pictures, not opinions.

    I don't want to sound like a jerk, but my goal is not to start a worm can. I am asking for pictures so I can see the marks myself. Like I said, I don't know anybody who has any LT mounts. You're very opinions are what gets people all heated up about this whole ADM vs. LT thing. Let's keep this thread civil and let's see some pictures, so idiots like myself can see for ourselves whether an LT mount will be a problem for our rifles, whether they be tools, safe queens, whatever.
    The website is about training with rifles. You train/go to classes/shoot regularly, you will scratch your rifle. Be it rubbing up against another rifle, other gear, ammo, the groud, the bench, etc. Be it accident, be it someone else, be it on purpose.

    Get over it, get it done early, and act accordingly.

    I can remember vividly when I first started shooting how many times my range experience was foiled by trying to cut corners and save a buck.

    What I stated, as gotm4 as also displayed, isn't merely just my opinion. If it does remove anything, its "smears" the anodizing, that is it.

    If having a small smear is a "problem" for "your" rifles, you should never take them out, and keep them in the safe. Only looking at them once every weekend with gloves on, preserving the original factory oil. Heaven forbid what the other people would say

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    What's wrong with giving the guy what he wants? He asked a simple question, and in turn he got his head bitten off about "tools"? C'mon.

    Give him the photos and let him decide for himself if the "damage" is something he can live with or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    What's wrong with giving the guy what he wants? He asked a simple question, and in turn he got his head bitten off about "tools"? C'mon.

    Give him the photos and let him decide for himself if the "damage" is something he can live with or not.
    Truth hurts.

    But to entertain...

    Billet upper followed by Forged Upper, larue Aimpoint and SPR-S mounts taken/applied *MANY* times

    I dont see anything, and if I did....who gives a shit. Its a rifle.

    Here's your sign.







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    I move lasers, ACOGs, weaponlights, and so forth around or on and off on my rifles because, well because it's fun, and also because they are often day/night platforms.

    Never had a problem with a LaRue Tactical mount or a rail doing this.
    Rails are fine, mounts are fine, the rifle shoots to zero, what more could you want.

    I promise you it's a non-issue.



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    Edwin...Which Quad Rail is that pictured and what kinda can is your SBR sporting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by royta View Post
    I need to buy a scope mount. Sure, I'd like to eliminate any gouging of my upper by the mount, but I'm not sure if I want to buy ADM. Could I get some pictures of this so called gouging, or is it that burnishing, caused by LT mounts? The way some describe it, you'd think it would remove half the width of the rail with every closure of the levers, and others say it is only a slight polishing where it contacts. I'd like to see pictures of what is really happening. I'm hoping that it is something that I can live with, because it sounds like the LT mounts are top notch.

    Accurate, high res, pictures from different angles would be appreciated. Thanks.


    Roy
    I will tell you how I install a LT mount. I first get the lever about finger tight (meaning my fingers turn color as I am having to apply enough pressure to open or close the lever). Once the levers are closed, I grab the mount and do a "push/pull" to see if it moves. If it does move, I tighten down the lever some more until their is no more shift. After it stops moving, I open and close the lever about 10 times to "seat it" into the rail. I then do another push/pull to check for movement and adjust the lever accordingly.
    I have noticed that on mounts that get taken on an off a lot, I have to re-tighten the lever as it creates a deeper and deeper "pocket" that the lever sits in.

    The reason I am telling you all this is because I believe that in order to get a LT lever to PROPERLY repeat and retain zero, you have to create a "pocket" for the lever to sit in. If this bothers you and or you view this as damaging the rail, then I would suggest that you do not buy a LT mount.



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