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    Bolt locking issues

    On the last round of every mag, the bolt is not catching. I'm not using a BAD lever or anything. This occurs 100% of the time.

    The lower that I'm using is a Mega forged lower with Grant's LPK (LMT parts, right?) and a BCM carbine RE/spring with an H2 buffer. The upper that it's being used with has been tested with two other lowers without having any issues. Upper is a 16" mid-length, made from BCM/DD parts, and the gas system was checked out by ADCO. So far I've sifted through a few things that could cause problems:

    1. It's not the mags, I went through 8 different mags/types.
    2. System isn't over/undergassed, ejection is fine (ejects 3 o'clock).
    3. Isn't ammunition (XM193)
    4. Isn't the BCG, gas key and rings are fine.

    The upper ran fine with another lower on a Vltor A5 system. So I've narrowed it down to this:

    1. Buffer is too heavy (H/H2 were tried, haven't tried a standard)
    2. Bolt catch, spring, or plunger is defective (Bolt catch will hold/release fine when pressed/depressed)
    3. Out of spec lower

    Are there any other possibilities for problems? I'm not sure if it's a buffer weight issue because I've ran this upper with an A5, which is heavier. One thing I'm noticing is that the bolt catch sticks out halfway when it fails to catch the bolt.
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    Who assembled the LPK and also have you inspected the bolt catch and spring closely?

    Doesn't sound like it's at all related to a gas/buffer issue, at least not to me. That being said, any particular reason for running an H2 in the 16" middy? I'd start by replacing it with a standard or H buffer - then start gettin' down to the nitty gritty and only after identifying and fixing the initial issue would I throw my H2 back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmorris View Post
    Doesn't sound like it's at all related to a gas/buffer issue, at least not to me.

    Who assembled the LPK and also have you inspected the bolt catch and spring closely?

    Any particular reason for running an H2 in the 16" middy? Foremost, I'd start by replacing it with a standard or H buffer - then start gettin' down to the nitty gritty.
    I assembled the lower (sixth time I've done it, never had an issue before) and ensured that it was done properly. The only thing different this time was the LPK. The bolt catch, spring, and plunger move properly and they look fine.

    I've used H/H2 buffers before on comparable rifles. I know for sure that it shouldn't have any issues with an H buffer, but I found a standard buffer that I'll try out tomorrow.

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    Right. Sorry I did a quick edit for a little bit of clarification. I'm not implying the H2 would cause issues but if you're trying to weed an issue out it's probably best to stay as close to a 'standard' configuration as possible.

    Another possibility, although probably a long shot, have you run any ammo from a different batch through it yet? I'm assuming this is a newly assembled build, not alot of rounds through it..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmorris View Post
    Right. Sorry I did a quick edit for a little bit of clarification. I'm not implying the H2 would cause issues but if you're trying to weed an issue out it's probably best to stay as close to a 'standard' configuration as possible.

    Another possibility, although probably a long shot, have you run any ammo from a different batch through it yet? I'm assuming this is a newly assembled build, not alot of rounds through it..?
    It's a valid concern because a lot of people don't bother with H2 and heavier buffers for this type of setup.

    The lower is new, but the upper has about 1k through it. The XM193 used was from two different lots.

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    Please remove that BAD lever and then report back to us. Do some searching and you will find similar issues.



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    I use a h2 in 16" bcm middy. Doesn't mean anything though, try replacing the bolt catch

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    + 1 on checking the bolt catch.
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    Most of these I have seen the spring was mixed up with the disconnector spring or was installed wrong. Do you have another spring to try?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb Jensen View Post
    H buffer is the heaviest I use on a mid-length. H2s are for CAR gas guns and/or suppressed guns.
    I'm going to order a standard today and see how it works later this week. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by trlcavscout View Post
    Most of these I have seen the spring was mixed up with the disconnector spring or was installed wrong. Do you have another spring to try?
    Nope, I keep my FCG parts away from everything else. I have a separate lower with a DD LPK and carbine RE, so I'm going to throw the H2 into that and try it with my upper. I wish I would have remembered to bring it a few days ago.

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