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    building a sniper-grade upper, etc.

    Forgive the newbishness. Looking for recommendations, thoughts, etc. Trying to stay cheap, naturally. Also would like to build a .22 upper at some point for ultra cheapness.

    Since I have a complete, I was thinking I'd just swap out an upper to do sniper matches. Is that an acceptable approach?

    -20" barrel (no idea who, specs, or whatnot)
    -free float rail (lightest? or...?)
    -obviously, optics; probably the most expense here?

    -trigger job on the lower (would probably suit all types of shooting)
    -or-
    -cheap lower to feed the upper build

    Or do people just figure, spend the $200 on a complete cheap lower, and eat that cost?

    Thanks!
    Last edited by iomatic; 02-17-12 at 11:38.

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    Talking

    You might want to try this link.
    http://m4carbine.net/search.php

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    Search as has been said

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    Do some reading in the "Precision Rifle - Semi-Auto" section.

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    Thanks, I think.

    I missed the forum topic (thanks for moving)! Also, maybe I should be more specific:

    Would you build a complete for specific tasks or do you think that having swappable uppers is a good/bad idea?
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    Depends what you intend to do with them. You can get by with swapping uppers but you may find there are things you really want on the lower with one or the other upper that aren't as easily swapped out.

    You said the precision upper was for competition. What is the other one being used for?

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    .22 for erm, cost savings, I guess. I wonder what the return rate is on investing in a .22 platform over time is?

    But, yeah, I have no idea if people generally just build completes or swap uppers, since it's so darn easy.

    This look like a good starting point?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_12_S..._Purpose_Rifle
    Last edited by iomatic; 02-17-12 at 15:44.

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    Here you go.

    http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/SPR-M...oups-s/131.htm

    Easiest and one of the best options. I would eventually build a complete lower for the precision upper with a Gessiele trigger.
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    That's what I figured, you end up spending the nominal amount on a lower anyway (comparatively speaking), so may as well go complete, right?

    12 hundies. woof!
    Last edited by iomatic; 02-17-12 at 17:51.

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    There is a good article by Zak Smith at Demigod. You really can't relate shooting and cheap together because your hardware ends up being the lowest cost part, so you might as well do it right and be done. Nobody ever complained about buying quality tools.

    Look at the end of the first page of this article it gives a good breakdown of the costs of competition shooting.
    http://demigodllc.com/articles/pract...ing-equipment/

    BTW.. lots of other great articles there.

    Myself, I built my lower with all the specific components I wanted and put a complete upper of quality on top. If you plan on changing the stock and trigger of a pre-built lower, you might as well by a stripped one and build your own up with what you want. Same goes for an upper if you can't find everything you need. Swapping a handguard wouldn't rule out buying a complete upper as I could sell the stock handguard, but if there is lots of other things to replace I'd just build that too.

    Your barrel and trigger (outside of marksmanship skills) is what's going to give you maximum accuracy, everything else is fluff.

    Good luck in your matches this year.
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    Threads about 22 LR options can be found in the pistol caliber sub-forum. I found this thread to be particularly useful
    http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=94908
    I chose to order the CMMG 22 adapter. Still waiting for it's arrival so I can't tell you from experience how well it works
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