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    This seems like it might be an interesting option when the stamp for my 6933 comes in.

    Reading about it on AAC's website it says "lighter and easier for users to pin and weld”. Is that advisable for anyone to do that? I would imagine for maintenance purposes alone it wouldn't be.

    Thx Aaron

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronwbunch View Post
    This seems like it might be an interesting option when the stamp for my 6933 comes in.

    Reading about it on AAC's website it says "lighter and easier for users to pin and weld”. Is that advisable for anyone to do that? I would imagine for maintenance purposes alone it wouldn't be.

    Thx Aaron
    from what I've heard its a limiting and terrible idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASH556 View Post
    I'm actually considering getting one of these to rocksett onto my DD MK18. The way I see it, it's a $500 flash hider/muzzle break. That 10.3 really "needs" a can anyway, but why waste $800-$1200 for a "consumable" muzzle device when the gun "needs" to be suppressed anyway?

    Todd, IG, Jason, you guys see a hole in this argument?
    If you didn't already own an SBR (I'm lusting after a DD Mk18) - could you theoretically buy the SBR & the can from the same FFL dealer and have THEM do the rocksett application- therefor negating the need for the SBR stamp tax? (only then having to pay the stamp tax on the supressor?)

    Don't know if that would work... any thoughts? Not trying to skirt the law, just trying to save $200 if the intent was to add a supressor to the rifle anyways (I don't have a need for shooting a 10.5 unsupressed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason F View Post
    If you didn't already own an SBR (I'm lusting after a DD Mk18) - could you theoretically buy the SBR & the can from the same FFL dealer and have THEM do the rocksett application- therefor negating the need for the SBR stamp tax? (only then having to pay the stamp tax on the supressor?)

    Don't know if that would work... any thoughts? Not trying to skirt the law, just trying to save $200 if the intent was to add a supressor to the rifle anyways (I don't have a need for shooting a 10.5 unsupressed).
    I don't think Rocksett alone would be sufficient for that purpose because (as I understand it) you could break the Rocksett loose with a wrench. I have been told, however, that you can have a suppressor pinned and welded onto an SBR to bring the barrel length out to 16" and negate the need for a stamp for an SBR. (You would still need one for the suppressor though.) In theory it would be like pinning an A2X onto a 14.5" barrel to bring it out to 16". However, don't take my word on this as fact because this is nothing I've ever tried to verify. IMO it makes sense, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. It's not something I would be interested in doing, but I'm curious to learn the legality of it anyway.
    Last edited by SteveL; 04-19-12 at 14:48.
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    Thanks for the thoughts Steve

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    I'm fairly certain that Rocksett doesn't count as permanently attached. Also, in the case of the MK18, a 10.3" barrel plus a 4.2" length added silencer only makes up 14.5", not 16", so still an SBR. Now, on a 12.5" you might be on to something, but I still wouldn't pin/weld a silencer. Rocksett is just to prevent a thread-on can from loosening. The advantage the Ranger 3 offers over other thread-on silencers is the wrench flats allowing you to use something like Rocksett to prevent it's unthreading during fire, but still allowing the ability to remove it for maintenance, etc.

    I have a shop in my garage where I can (and have) built uppers from scratch. I'd leave the can on 99% of the time ,but if I needed to swap it out, it would only take me a few minutes max to unscrew the can and screw on the flashhider.
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    I'm definitely considering the RANGER3 for a set and forget muzzle device!
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    Steve- Thanks for your thoughts.

    Ash- thanks for catching the math error. Asleep at the keyboard on that one.


    Looks like if I went Ranger 3 I'd still have to go SBR... oh well. Thought it might save $200, but at the price points that this all adds up to, oh well. What's another $200.


    Quote Originally Posted by ASH556 View Post
    I'm fairly certain that Rocksett doesn't count as permanently attached. Also, in the case of the MK18, a 10.3" barrel plus a 4.2" length added silencer only makes up 14.5", not 16", so still an SBR.......
    Quote Originally Posted by SteveL View Post
    I don't think Rocksett alone would be sufficient for that purpose because (as I understand it) you could break the Rocksett loose with a wrench.......

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    Anyone using one of these yet?

    Interested in hearing some details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron_B View Post
    Anyone using one of these yet?

    Interested in hearing some details.
    They are STILL not out.

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