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Thread: Single stage vs. Double stage trigger for SBR

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmc45 View Post
    You need to be VERY carefull where you take that. I was in the corps. And it was a 2 stage. By your post is clear you never were.
    Please don't get this thread locked. Ironman wasn't attacking you; he was just pointing something out. Taking the time and effort to work people through issues / decisions only to have the thread get locked for some jackassery gets old. So please let this be the definitive word and let it go: USGI triggers are single stage. Every single M4 / M16 (unless it's for SOCOM with the SSF) in service has a standard, single stage trigger in it, unless an end user changed it on his own.

    USGI triggers have a lot of creep / notchiness, so you can often take up some of that creep, stop, then precisely control the release of the shot. But it's still a single stage trigger. Maybe this is where you're getting the impression that it's a 2 stage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by usmc45 View Post
    You need to be VERY carefull where you take that. I was in the corps. And it was a 2 stage. By your post is clear you never were.
    Internet tough guy ususally goes nowhere buddy. Realize that there was no veiled insult, but if being a internet tough guy makes your cherios float, then be my guest. I'm done with this conversation with you.


    Btw, thanks for setting the record straight a0cake.

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    While I'm completely new to the AR15 platform, I'm NOT new to good triggers. The triggers on my 3 Weihrauch air rifles are unbelievable, the single-set trigger on my CZ453 .17HMR is magic & with a little tuning, the triggers on my 7, CZ452's are simply wonderful.
    With this in mind, the first thing I did with my new LMT was to replace the trigger with an SSA-E. It is just (in a word) Perfect! While my age & physical condition keep me from running-n-gunning, I feel the enhanced 2nd stage would still be safe in an agressive situation while still being perfect for bench shooting.
    The trouble is, now that I have a benchmark for what triggers can be, I need to go back & really fine tune my other rifles...

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    I do 2 stagers on my precision guns and singles stages on my SBRs and "fighting" guns.

    Love the Wilson Combat TTUs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWC4 View Post
    While I'm completely new to the AR15 platform, I'm NOT new to good triggers. The triggers on my 3 Weihrauch air rifles are unbelievable, the single-set trigger on my CZ453 .17HMR is magic & with a little tuning, the triggers on my 7, CZ452's are simply wonderful.
    With this in mind, the first thing I did with my new LMT was to replace the trigger with an SSA-E. It is just (in a word) Perfect! While my age & physical condition keep me from running-n-gunning, I feel the enhanced 2nd stage would still be safe in an agressive situation while still being perfect for bench shooting.
    The trouble is, now that I have a benchmark for what triggers can be, I need to go back & really fine tune my other rifles...
    Dude, the "Rekord" triggers on the Weihrauch's are amazing aren't they? I used to shoot 10M air rifle and springer class field target with a HW-97 tuned by Russ Best fairly competitively about 7 years ago. I've since sold all my airguns but I'm thinking about getting another HW-97. It's just hard to swallow because I could get a complete high end AR upper for the same price as a complete airgun setup.

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    No need for aftermarket triggers here,



    The Rekord Triggers gave me the confidence I needed to go with the SSA-E, & boy, am I glad I did! My HW97K, HW80 & HW50s will never leave my collection.

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    I would seriously consider the ALG (It's a Geissele at heart, but a simple first stage with a more consistent pull, and none of the dumb issues of filed down triggers).

    G2S and GSSA would be the alternative, for all the above reasons. That combination of pull weight is good enough for precision weapons, but works in my short light rifles.

    Getting behind a Corps owned/borrowed Mk12 with the KAC 2-Stage was what started me looking at the two stage units for every application (I think it was still the KAC sourced for those in '09) - bought one GSSA, and have since acquired another 5, on NCO income. I think that should speak for itself.
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    I am throwing my vote out there for the SSA. That is what I have on my 14.5" AR and I love it. I am not sure I would like a lighter trigger pull for an all around rifle. I will get a SSA-E when/if I build a precision rifle.

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    I think the SSA or just the standard ALG (if you do not already have a standard trigger group). By running the two stage, you applying the theory of having it in case you need it (the precision aspect of having a 2-stage), rather than wishing you had it should you need it.

    For high round count shooting though, it doesn't matter. I have a SSA in one rifle and a LMT in another, both give me the same results under that rate of fire.

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    I use the ALG Defense ACT triggers in my SBRs.
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