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    Has anyone tried or heard any news about the Zeiss 1.1x-4x scope? I saw it on their wesite while looking at stuff the other day. It's pretty pricey (like most Zeiss stuff) but I was curious as to how it performed as a military type optic.

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    I just odered the TR21 - German #4 / LaRue mount combo. Should have it in 2 weeks and I'll post up a review with pics . Plan on using it for three gun and SHTF duty....

    http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetac...ail.bok?no=232

    HLD...

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    I am going to use a millet, for the money they cant be beat.

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    Where were yall getting the millet blems from? Anyone got a link?

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    Some people were asking about the Burris XTR 1-4x24 optic on this thread a few pages back, and I just wanted to add this, so a future 1-4x scope buyer will know.
    I tried a Burris XTR-14 last week, and while it had a good reticle, and good glass, the rest of the scope wasn't worth it's $600 price tag. It appeared to be a "true" 1x optic, as far as I could tell, I could not tell any different between eyes looking at it on 1x. The reticle is very small, but with the illumination on, is easy to see. The illumination is also visible in daylight, probably not as much as a S&B Short Dot, but still, very well. The illumination adjustment dial, located on the left side of the adjustment turret is hard to turn, and can't be done with gloves. The dial's cap is "fatter" than the adjustment lever underneath it, so you have to be careful not to un-screw the cap while twisting the Ill. lever... hence, it would be hard with gloves. The scope is also not small, if you're wanting a shorter 1-4x scope. Also, this scope doesn't have a "power ring".. to zoom in/out from 1-4x, you have to turn the entire eyebell. This is fine, although when it's on anything but 2.5x, the big white "Burris" logo is not on top, it's on one of the sides - which looks sort of weird. May bother some people. The windage and elevation adjustment dials is where the scope looses it's luster. If Burris would install target turrets on it, it would be a LOT better, but instead, it comes with Burris' "hunter" knobs... which is a metal screw, with a slot in the center for a penny or screwdriver. Around that, is a plastic ring, which is supposed to be there so you could turn it to "0" when you're scope is zeroed... unfortunately, this is a useless feature, since the plastic rings on mine almost spun freely, and wouldn't stay on "0" under a high-movement situation.. the one on the elevation turret actually would move up and down about 1/16".. These adjustments are also the reason I sent my scope back... my windage adjustments would give an audible click, and seemed to be precise, although very hard to turn. The elevation adjustment would only click in the "down" direction, and wouldn't click at all in the "up" direction. I figured that it was because there was too much grease/lube or silicone for waterproofing on the gears, and would work itself out. I turned the dial back and forth, slowly, several times, hoping it would start clicking once the grease got spread out, instead though, it completely disconnected itself from whatever it was adjusting, and would then spin freely, with no resistance! I contacted Burris, and they told me they'd send me a call tag (so I could ship it on their dime), and mail me a replacement. I advised them of my time situation, and the next day, they sent me another e-mail advising me to send it back to Midway, instead of them, because they were out of stock on the XTR-14's... ha. Basically, I would not recommend this scope to anyone, unless Burris drops the price tag down to around $250 - $300 max, and puts XTR tactical turrets on it (all the other XTR's have the target turrets, the XTR-14 is just a EuroDiamond 1-4x24 with the letters "XTR" painted on the side)... The origional thread I posted about this, with some picture links, is here .. So, now, I am saving up to buy an ACOG. To anyone considering a Burris XTR-14, I would suggest getting a Trijicon Accupoint instead, or even a Leupold VXII 1-4x. The XTR was designed to compete with the Leupold Mark4 MR/T 1.5-5x24, Nightforce NXS 1-4x24, and perhaps even the (yeah right ) S&B Short Dot. I believe they failed, miserably. They can't even compete with the Accupoint, and may not even outperform the Millet DMS-1!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damascus View Post
    Also, this scope doesn't have a "power ring".. to zoom in/out from 1-4x, you have to turn the entire eyebell. This is fine, although when it's on anything but 2.5x, the big white "Burris" logo is not on top, it's on one of the sides - which looks sort of weird. May bother some people.
    Whats worse, the flip up scope cover will turn with it. Probably why they don't ship with them.

    Bob

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    Thumbs up

    I've gotta say I'm gonna go with the Millet as well for the money you just cant beat it. They are clean, clear, simple, and bullet proff.
    Find what it is in life that you do not do well......and do not do that thing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattpittinger View Post
    I've gotta say I'm gonna go with the Millet as well for the money you just cant beat it. They are clean, clear, simple, and bullet proff.
    Just curious, are you the same person that posted on another forum about how great these are that actually worked for Millet? Just wondering since he didn't "proof" read very well either.
    The man on top of the mountain didn't fall there.

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    No I am not the guy that posted on the other thread. I do not not work for Millet, I just like the scope.
    Find what it is in life that you do not do well......and do not do that thing....

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