From skimming the thread, it would appear that the first choice in this type of optic would be the S&B, with the Nightforce coming in second?
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From skimming the thread, it would appear that the first choice in this type of optic would be the S&B, with the Nightforce coming in second?
Having owned a Nightforce 1-4x and currently owning a Short Dot, I would say you are correct.
The Nightforce is a great scope. If I had to do it over and buy another I would get the 2.5-10x Nightforce and use a side mounted small red dot. I think the Close range mildot is the way to go with the Nightforce, as the FC-2 covers up too much target at distance.
I cannot say enough how much I love my Short Dot. It is heavy and bulky but it has no rival in my opinion. The more I use it, the more I like it and using the dot on the 2.5-3x range is very fast at moving targets at distance. It really is a do-all optic. They are expensive, but it kills me when people go on about the cost of a Short Dot, but then buy a $1000 ACOG, then put a side mounted T1 ($500-600) on the gun and end up with just about as much weight and $ into optics as if they had just bought a Short Dot.
With the dollar falling against European currency, Schmidt & Bender optics will do nothing but increase in their value over time, making them a good investment as well. From their website:
The good news? Even with our price increase, Schmidt & Bender scopes still represent the highest quality, most desirable optics available anywhere in the world...and as you know, the very finest of any product always delivers superior long-term value and return. Every Schmidt & Bender riflescope is an investment for a lifetime; amortized over the decades a Schmidt & Bender will serve you, it remains an intelligent purchase indeed.
If you wisely purchased Schmidt & Bender scopes in the past, their values continue to grow. At the time, you may have thought they were very expensive...now, they look like quite a bargain. Chances are, ten or 20 years from now we will all be saying "I wish I'd bought a Schmidt & Bender back in '08, when they were really cheap!"
Info on the Burris XTR-14: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/inde...2691&hl=burris
I would have to say the Swarovski 1-6 has the short dot beat and that is why I bought it. But that is just my opinion.
Pat
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Armorer for AR15, 1911, Glocks and Remington 870 shotguns.
What would be some of the better mount and ring combinations for the Burris xtr or the trijicon t-21. Assuming no front or rear sight is mounted on weapon how high should the rings be for best overall use. (target shooting, hunting and CQB)
"We prepare, so we don't end up at the superdome"- unknown
"IMHO, if you wanted to shoot crap ammo, you should have bought a crap upper. It makes baby Jesus cry when he sees crap ammo put through a nice upper."- C4IGrant
For the Trijicon TR-21 you'll need either the Larue SPR-E (LT-139-1") or the ADM Recon-X (1"). It has very long eye relief, and needs the extended mounts to push out over the handguards.
No experience with the Burris. Edit: But in the above link they refernce using the Larue SPR-E so I'd imagine either of the above mounts would be well suited as well. I don't know what diameter the Burris tube is, so it might need the 30mm mounts instead of the 1".
--Josh H.
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Now this would be going on an LMT with an MRP upper. Do the same rules apply?
"We prepare, so we don't end up at the superdome"- unknown
"IMHO, if you wanted to shoot crap ammo, you should have bought a crap upper. It makes baby Jesus cry when he sees crap ammo put through a nice upper."- C4IGrant
With the MRP (or a Vltor VIS), you could use one of the non-extended mounts, since it's a true monolithic upper and you could mount the optic as far forward as you wanted without losing stability. I'd still recommend the Larue or ADM in an non-extended mount. There are other opotions out there I'm sure, but I don't know enough to suggest one, and I don't think it gets any "better" than the LT and ADM mounts. Either should be serve you well. I'll mention that ADM are board sponsors and a little cheaper, I thinkThat said, mine's in a Larue mount...but not because of any problem with the ADM offering.
On the other hand, if you used the the extended mount, moving it to another rifle without a monolithic upper would be an optionlater down the road. Maybe that's a benefit, maybe not.
--Josh H.
Zombies seek out and eat brains. Don't worry; you'll be safe if they attack.
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