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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
    Yeah, well comparing an Aimpoint or EOTech against the Specter isn't really a fair comparison, IMO, though I guess comparing them with and without magnifiers might be more in-line. At this point the Specter is kind of in a class of it's own.

    It's been a number of years since I tried the Short Dot, but the magnification bothered me a little bit at 1x, I'm thinking because my cross eye dominance, and the FOV seemed small. There wasn't really much on the market to compare it with then, but it just didn't seem right for me... I've heard the new ones are better, but haven't viewed one.

    I haven't seen the NF or USO 1-4s, but the Kahles didn't impress me.

    Oh a side note, the GRSC scope in the other thread has me interested, well at least the reticle does.

    I guess everyone is picky in their own way.
    I am technically NOT comparing an EOTech or an Aimpoint to the Specter. I am taking one specific model that Aimpoint makes (ML2-2X) and using that model to demonstrate what looking through the Specter compares too.

    The S&B SD is on of the VERY few optics that is almost a true 1X. No other optic can really say that (espeically not the Specter as it is more like a 1.5-1.7X).

    The SN-4 is junk IMHO, but the NF is going to own the market I think because of its lower cost and high quality.


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    Anyone care for the Leupold MRT 1.5-5 scope! Just looking to see if anyone has used one! I was planning on getting one but Im still waiting to see whats coming out! I have a 16 inch carbine and think one of these scopes will work well for me just deciding us gonna be a challenge! Where can we get a look at some of the prices for these scopes(It would be great if someone could PM me a list of the scopes talked about in this thread with prices!)! Thanks gentlemen for this thread, it has been very informative!

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcgrunt View Post
    Anyone care for the Leupold MRT 1.5-5 scope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcgrunt View Post
    Anyone care for the Leupold MRT 1.5-5 scope! Just looking to see if anyone has used one! I was planning on getting one but Im still waiting to see whats coming out! I have a 16 inch carbine and think one of these scopes will work well for me just deciding us gonna be a challenge! Where can we get a look at some of the prices for these scopes(It would be great if someone could PM me a list of the scopes talked about in this thread with prices!)! Thanks gentlemen for this thread, it has been very informative!

    Grunt Out!

    I actually just came from checking one out in person and it's a really nice scope for the money based on internet prices. The gun shop I went too was trying to rob me in daylight obviously with their prices. I'm all about supporting B&M storefronts but I'm also about personal finances. Let's just say I would be within $100 of a NF 1-4 before military discount for what they were charging for the Leupold. All in all I think the Leupold is great at $700 but not $1000. Consequently that store wanted $475 + tax for a EOTech 552. They use to have great prices a couple of years ago but not any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    I am technically NOT comparing an EOTech or an Aimpoint to the Specter. I am taking one specific model that Aimpoint makes (ML2-2X) and using that model to demonstrate what looking through the Specter compares too.

    The S&B SD is on of the VERY few optics that is almost a true 1X. No other optic can really say that (espeically not the Specter as it is more like a 1.5-1.7X).

    The SN-4 is junk IMHO, but the NF is going to own the market I think because of its lower cost and high quality.
    Hmm.... The Short Dot I viewed was obviously not anywhere near a true 1x. I doubt I'll be abe to find a NF to try unless I buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
    Hmm.... The Short Dot I viewed was obviously not anywhere near a true 1x. I doubt I'll be abe to find a NF to try unless I buy it.

    Believe it or not, the S&B is the closest to a true 1X that you will find in a scope.

    I have some NF 1-4's coming this week (new generation).



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    and no doubt the NF is about 1200 bucks or more.

    What is out there that a regular working stiff who isnt made of money?

    I simply cannot justify spending that much on optics, christ I dont have that much in the weapon. And I dont shoot at bad guys for a living anymore, so I dont "need" this optic, its just something to enhance the fun i have with my toys.
    Dont sweat the small stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt_Overide View Post
    and no doubt the NF is about 1200 bucks or more.

    What is out there that a regular working stiff who isnt made of money?

    I simply cannot justify spending that much on optics, christ I dont have that much in the weapon. And I dont shoot at bad guys for a living anymore, so I dont "need" this optic, its just something to enhance the fun i have with my toys.

    The Trijicon TR21 is really your best bet for what you pay and what you get.


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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Looking through the Specter is like looking through the Aimpoint 2X. It really narrows your FOV down.

    Have you used a S&B Short Dot or the NF 1-4 yet? They have very good FOV's IMHO.

    I want to like this optic in the worst way, but just cannot.


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    I have no hands on with either of these but the Specter lists better FOV than the Short Dot, both at 1x and a 4x, at least according to each company's websites. Elcan lists eye relief at 70mm which is just shy of 3".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmart View Post
    I have no hands on with either of these but the Specter lists better FOV than the Short Dot, both at 1x and a 4x, at least according to each company's websites. Elcan lists eye relief at 70mm which is just shy of 3".

    Yes I know. They also tell you that it is a true 1X as well. It is not.



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