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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Right.

    I don't fault a company selling what the locals will buy. What they are guilty of is not knowing anything about the products that they sell.


    If the internet went away tomorrow, I would have no choice, but to stock cheap/crappy AR's in order to feed my family. GOD BLESS YOU AL GORE FOR THE INTERNET!


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    Grant, would you feel bad selling lesser ARs so long as you educated the customer?
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    What I find interesting is that people who buy sub-standard rifles or components are frowned upon in the gun community.

    In cycling it is the opposite. God forbid you post pictures of your expensive bike decked out in all Dura Ace components. You will be told numerous times that it is overkill unless you are some Cat 1 racer or in the TdF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJRK View Post
    What I find interesting is that people who buy sub-standard rifles or components are frowned upon in the gun community.

    In cycling it is the opposite. God forbid you post pictures of your expensive bike decked out in all Dura Ace components. You will be told numerous times that it is overkill unless you are some Cat 1 racer or in the TdF.
    Mmmm.... that depends. There are plenty of cyclists who will call you a "wanker" for riding clincher tires rather than tubulars.

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    True

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJRK View Post
    What I find interesting is that people who buy sub-standard rifles or components are frowned upon in the gun community.

    In cycling it is the opposite. God forbid you post pictures of your expensive bike decked out in all Dura Ace components. You will be told numerous times that it is overkill unless you are some Cat 1 racer or in the TdF.
    But a bike is a bike, used for a sport. A rifle is is a weapon which has the primary mission of saving your ass or the asses of those you love or swore to protect...see the difference!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd00000 View Post
    Grant, would you feel bad selling lesser ARs so long as you educated the customer?
    For whatever reason, I feel obligated to "Fix" a gun with known issues (poorly staked gas keys, out of spec chambers, not staked castle nuts, etc) before letting it out the door. So that is why I do not stock many of the AR's out there (as I don't have time to pull them apart before selling them).



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJRK View Post
    What I find interesting is that people who buy sub-standard rifles or components are frowned upon in the gun community.

    In cycling it is the opposite. God forbid you post pictures of your expensive bike decked out in all Dura Ace components. You will be told numerous times that it is overkill unless you are some Cat 1 racer or in the TdF.
    The difference between a crappy AR and a good AR can be as little as $100 dollars. My guess is that the difference between a high end bike and a cheap one can be a lot more than that.

    Since the prices between AR's is so close, why by buy crap???



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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    For whatever reason, I feel obligated to "Fix" a gun with known issues (poorly staked gas keys, out of spec chambers, not staked castle nuts, etc) before letting it out the door. So that is why I do not stock many of the AR's out there (as I don't have time to pull them apart before selling them).



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    I get it, and it's great you have a market that can support your business model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd00000 View Post
    I get it, and it's great you have a market that can support your business model.
    Do you agree with this business model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmorris View Post
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    ...They have one quality rifle in the entire building, a lonely Knights Armament SR15, possibly the finest AR in existence just begging for an owner. It's an all FDE model and ...
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    Personally, I would be eyeing that SR15 real hard.
    I'd play dumb and casually ask to see it, then ask, "Knights, what the heck is a Knights?" Then, sarcastically say, "Don't they make black powder guns? What the heck does a black powder company know about AR's?"

    It might have been on the shelf a long time and they want to get rid of it. Dicker, trade, lay-a-way, whatever it take...you never know...??

    But maybe it's just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerik1m4 View Post
    Now I'm not saying that you MUST shop local, however
    If you don't voice your opinion to them about their
    Products that they carry or you want them to carry,
    How long before all this online sales hurt your LGS
    And you can no longer even transfer things to pick up there
    Once they go out of business?
    Kitchen table FFLs. This isn't really a problem that's limited to the firearms industry. It's a growing concern of the entire retail industry.

    Can you imagine a time when there are a very limited amount of stores in your area that you can purchase goods from, and that the norm consists of making large purchases from companies that are located far away without you ever laying a hand on the product?

    Yeah, that was 100 years ago. Sears Roebuck mail order.

    It wasn't just Sears. I asked my grandfather how the family got its cane mill and he told me his father ordered it out of this catalog. He never saw it before he ordered it and only knew of it's maker's reputation.

    Maybe every town doesn't need a Best Buy. Maybe we don't need as many LGSs. Prolific brick and mortar has gone from economically infeasible to profitable, and is now on the way back to infeasible. Unfortunately, that will put a lot of Americans out of work, but, like it or not, it's the direction we're heading. In the not to distant future, the closest thing we'll have to instant gratification is Amazon Prime one day shipping!


    We have a decent amount of LGS here, but there's only one I'll do business with. He does stock Colt and DD, but there are far more Bushys and RRs. I bought my first lower from him in addition to one more firearm. I've bought a few thousand primers from him along with about 6 lbs of powder, but I can't really afford to at the volume I'm shooting now.

    His primers are $42/k and a single pound of powder is between $25 - $30. I asked about a bulk purchase of 5k primers and 8 lbs of HP-38. He quoted me $39/k for primers and $210 for the powder. Those same primers at Powder Valley sell for $26/k and the powder goes for $113.

    So I can save $29 by buying in bulk from him or I can save $143 (yes, after haz-mat and shipping) by ordering online. That's more money for classes or practice.
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