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    I also work at a gunshop, and you see all
    Sorts. Both sides of the counter mind you.

    But just like the AR market has worked its way
    To customers demanding a higher quality product
    Won't LGS have to soon do the same to compete?

    Now I'm not saying that you MUST shop local, however
    If you don't voice your opinion to them about their
    Products that they carry or you want them to carry,
    How long before all this online sales hurt your LGS
    And you can no longer even transfer things to pick up there
    Once they go out of business?

    I know for myself at least that this forum has helped
    Me greatly expand my knowledge and understanding
    Of ARs, handguns, and thanks to DocGKR what bullets
    Do to soft squishy 2-legged vermin.

    I feel that I can better educate my customer when they
    Come In looking for firearms. BUT, BUT you still get the
    Whole " my bushmaster is as good as any! I've put 100
    Problem free rounds down range and that's good enough!"
    Crowd. That is the unfortunate fact of retail work.
    The customer is always right(even if they aren't).
    Don't get me wrong though, I've been to other shops and
    Even seen at my own. Some LGS employees don't
    Know shit! I used to be one till I went to better educate
    Myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyxcom View Post
    Honestly, what did you expect? Why would they recommend something that they don't sell.

    You think if you walked in to a Chevy dealer they would recommend a GMC or Ford?
    I would agree with that statement.

    A Ford dealership won't tell you that BMW's are better because they don't sell them.

    Its fairly obvious and expected that most LGS employees don't have the best knowledge in firearms products. You are humoring yourself if you think they do

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    Yes some LGS guys are tools.... Just like every other type of business.

    I laugh a bit though, when folks bitch about the local stores not carrying massive inventory of the most expensive and exotic wares.... Here's part of the problem:

    Average guy goes in and used the LGS to fondle and feel a particular item in their hands, compare it to others, etc, etc.

    Then, gasps at the markup. He then stealthily goes home, finds it $100 cheaper online and pays some kitchen table ffl $15 to transfer it. The LGS's don't want to just be a "local showroom" for later purchase from gunbroker and budsgunshop.... They've got overhead!

    Listen, I buy online, ALOT.... But mostly stuff I CANT get locally....

    Lately, I've been wanting more and more unique/custom items- I'm not going to start bitching about my local gun shop carrying them.... Id love to find a shop big enough to be able to carry a selection of suprssor-ready SBR m4's in 9mm, but I'm not going to hold my breath...

    Btw, not every LGS clerk spends HOURS each day reading gun forums and becoming an expert on a single platform....So, I'm not trying to defend dumb people, but consider there's another side sometimes.
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    There is already a thread where you can read as many pages of these types of stories as you desire

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=26703
    Quote Originally Posted by d90king
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    That's why MY 'local' dealer, is Grant.
    LOL and we appreciate that!

    Break Break


    What is funny OP, is that it is reversed in my area. My local walk in customers are LOOKING for RRA, BM, DPMS, Oly, etc and I do not have them in stock. I have Colt, BCM, LMT, KAC, DD and Noveske. They (my local customers) don't know who many of these companies are and have no interest in them.

    So while you are annoyed with your LGS's crappy AR's and lack of knowledge, try being a LGS that has products nobody (locally) wants because they are too good!



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    Quote Originally Posted by badness View Post
    I'm willing to bet it's supply and demand. They can actually get Rock Rivers, DPMS and Stags from their distributors so they push those because they won't have any problems restocking their shelves if they sell out. On top of that, they probably make a larger profit off of those because dealer price is probably lower on those commercial ar's.
    Right.

    I don't fault a company selling what the locals will buy. What they are guilty of is not knowing anything about the products that they sell.


    If the internet went away tomorrow, I would have no choice, but to stock cheap/crappy AR's in order to feed my family. GOD BLESS YOU AL GORE FOR THE INTERNET!


    C4
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow50 View Post
    dj, you would happen to live in maine would you?
    Yes.

    How'd you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OIPactual View Post
    My experience is about 10-15% margins on AR rifles...no matter the brand. The difference is usually what PEOPLE ASK FOR.
    I work in a LGS, and i have a DDV5. When someone asks which AR i would buy i tell them DD, Colt, BCM, etc. and have often showed them the chart. Most of them just get this confused look and say "what about RRA, Bushmaster or DPMS?"

    If i could only sell quality AR rifles i would, but most people ask for the shit ones, so if i want to stay open i have to stock the shit ones...I have a DD, Colt 6920, and a bunch of others on the shelf and i hope to be a LMT dealer next year, but i don't think i can ever completely eliminate the shit rifles...too much demand, i have had customers want a RRA so bad they pay in full and wait for months when a Colt or DD is sitting right there.


    Just saying, it's not always the LGS guy, sometimes is coming from the other side of the counter...
    Of course. But there's a huge difference between your shop and the one in the OP. You stock good stuff and recommend them when asked. The OP's gunshop doesn't carry good stuff and recommends shitty stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowepg View Post
    Yes some LGS guys are tools.... Just like every other type of business.

    Average guy goes in and used the LGS to fondle and feel a particular item in their hands, compare it to others, etc, etc.

    Then, gasps at the markup. He then stealthily goes home, finds it $100 cheaper online and pays some kitchen table ffl $15 to transfer it. The LGS's don't want to just be a "local showroom" for later purchase from gunbroker and budsgunshop.... They've got overhead!

    Listen, I buy online, ALOT.... But mostly stuff I CANT get locally....
    The problem with this argument is that why should the customer pay a $100-$200 more to have the privilege of shopping at the local guy. I buy mainly online at retailers like rainier arms and grtactical and to my best knowledge they do have some sort of storefront. They are simply retailers that have invested in gaining superior knowledge about their product combined with competitive prices, and better business model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Right.

    I don't fault a company selling what the locals will buy. What they are guilty of is not knowing anything about the products that they sell.


    If the internet went away tomorrow, I would have no choice, but to stock cheap/crappy AR's in order to feed my family. GOD BLESS YOU AL GORE FOR THE INTERNET!


    C4
    You can say that again. If it wasn't for the internet, i'd probably own a del-ton right now LOL.

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