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Thread: Springfield Professional or Wilson CQB

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    Rocketman is right. The real issue is how they perform relative to your use profile.

    I have owned three Pros and three CQB's, and still have two of each. Happy with all of them. Sold one Pro to a buddy, sold the extra CQB because I want one configured slightly differently and I'll buy it when I see it.

    CQB is a very smooth running gun, 30 lpi checkering isn't my favorite but isn't a showstopper either. The gun cycles and feeds smoothly, the recoil impulse is easily managed, and overall the gun feels nimble as a 5" gun gets. I very much like the sight picture on my old CQB pyramid night sights. The dots aren't distracting.

    The PRO is a monolithic workhorse. 20 lpi checkering I like, gun is super solid (fits are much tighter). And once well broken in really is smooth. The components are very traditional - novak 3 dots and S&A profile grip safety and such, which wouldn't be my first pick. The recoil cycle feels smoother on a Pro, probably due to its weight and relative tightness. Black-T is competent but the CQB's armor tuff wears a little better. Pro has a heavier trigger.

    Both guns are super accurate, both are super competent. Both will serve you well. They have a different presence in the hand, a different visual and dynamic (recoil and handling) experience. Current Wilson production is a step up in cosmetics and execution on top of a gun that runs. The Pro is less refined cosmetically.

    I carry one of my CQB's. Rarely carry a PRO. If I wore a badge and busted down doors for a living, the Pro would be a better fit for my usage. Trust them both.

    MIM is a non issue in these guns. My carry CQB has almost 40K rounds through it, has the earlier Wilson MIM hammer and sear. I spend zero time worrying about it.

    I think the shooting experience is where you make your choice. You live with sight pictures, trigger presses, and control manipulations. Do you like the sights and controls? Does it sit in your hand right? Does it point naturally and feel like an extension of your body? How fast do you get back on target? That's where the decision lies.
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    MIM in a higher-end Springfield is just about a non-issue, because I believe the MIM parts they use is higher quality MIM. What I think Springfield does so well on the Pro and even the TRP or Trophy match -- and probably the Range Officer too -- is fit a pistol together that has such a good balance of reliabilty and accuracy. Whether you are a plinker or going into harm's way or shoot your local club matches every week, these pistols will serve you well.

    Wilson is on a better level still, but, of course, you pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunBugBit View Post
    MIM in a higher-end Springfield is just about a non-issue, because I believe the MIM parts they use is higher quality MIM. What I think Springfield does so well on the Pro and even the TRP or Trophy match -- and probably the Range Officer too -- is fit a pistol together that has such a good balance of reliabilty and accuracy. Whether you are a plinker or going into harm's way or shoot your local club matches every week, these pistols will serve you well.

    Wilson is on a better level still, but, of course, you pay.
    You are correct, even though the Professional's price would almost command no MIM parts, SA appears to have the QC on their MIM parts on lockdown. If the FBI doesn't have a problem with SA's MIM parts, I don't either.

    Currently though--Wilson has my dollars. Would love to buy a Custom Carry from SACS one day though. Wait-time sucks bad though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsoncombatrep View Post
    Current WC 1911's have no cast OR MIM parts.....and has been that way for quite some time. Carry On...


    So you no longer have to order a CQB Elite to get all the Bulletproof barstock including grip safety parts? Sweet Ive been waiting on George to get the right on in stock for me.


    On the other side, I have a Pro Operator. Paid 2300 bucks for it brand new because I paid my money and waited, runs great for the whole 500 rounds I put through it. Accuracy is amazing, for a trigger almost hitting 5lbs it doesn't feel like 5lbs. I don't think I would pay 3200 for an Operator. A price Ive seen them go for on Gunbroker but hey whatever.

    As for MIM, its been fine since Springfield and Colt using it, the only company that ever had issues was Kimber a long time ago. And now years later were still having this debate.

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    Another +1 for Springfield Custom's MIM.

    I have over 10K of hardball through a Custom Carry and the MIM in it has never been an issue and shows no sign of it becoming an issue. All barstock parts is fine and dandy, and makes for a great sales pitch, but I like cocking serrations that actually grip, so I'll buy a Springfield over a Wilson every time.

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    Completely unrelated and just a shot in the dark but I figure you fellas would be able to answer my question. Does the springfield pro and custom carry 1911's come stock with the ils style mainspring housing?
    "But if they want to play out a Rage Against the Machine album then...I have no problem blacking out my face, putting on Tiger Stripes, and working on my ear necklace."-FireFly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnchair 04 View Post
    Completely unrelated and just a shot in the dark but I figure you fellas would be able to answer my question. Does the springfield pro and custom carry 1911's come stock with the ils style mainspring housing?
    Pro does not
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    I chose the CQB myself. Very accurate and reliable. Never ran it "dirty". It was hard for me to justify a Pro for the money, when I was happy with what I had for the price.

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    I think the question of MIM is a non issue.

    That being said, I don't believe you could go wrong with either.
    Dont sweat the small stuff.


    If youre not taking fire, its all small stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0CKETMAN View Post
    Pro does not
    Neither of my Pros, nor my Custom Carry came with ILS

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