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    It makes you wonder if the war would have lasted longer what other designs the nazi's would have come out with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g5m View Post
    That's pretty interesting stuff. IIRC there was some reverse engineering error in the metric conversions, or that's the story that was told in the past, and the receiver wasn't long enough for the 30-06. I read somewhere that the stamping dies for that weapon were destroyed after the project didn't pan out. But, if they had been kept you just wonder how that MG would have worked with the 7.62X51 when it was adopted.
    Also, keep in mind that the 1919 was in service for over 40 years here and served many more years elsewhere. Not too shabby.

    It was replaced by the m-60 which had features from several prior MG's, including the WW1 Lewis gun.
    It did work in 7.62x51, we just weren't there yet.

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    Sure it did, but not by our hands.

    And, I would wonder how the MG 42 would do in the jungles. Maybe just fine, but I don't know.
    There was a very good book written, back in the 60's IIRC, entitled "The Jungle is Neutral".
    Maybe they were using MG 42's but I don't recall. Haven't seen that book in decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmrtnsn View Post
    ......with a water-cooled M1919.
    That was the 1917 or 1917A1. It came first. Then they made the 'light' 1919 by modifying the 1917.
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    That was really cool. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g5m View Post
    Sure it did, but not by our hands.

    And, I would wonder how the MG 42 would do in the jungles. Maybe just fine, but I don't know.
    There was a very good book written, back in the 60's IIRC, entitled "The Jungle is Neutral".
    Maybe they were using MG 42's but I don't recall. Haven't seen that book in decades.
    My feelings are it would have done or does just fine. As there are photos of NVA and VC humping MG42 during the Vietnam war.

    The US messed up adding a piston to the 60. Just one more part to go wrong. The 42 is about as simple as it can get.

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    Just imagine if we had M240's back then....

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    interesting propaganda piece...

    fair testing, my foot...
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    Not to be unpatriotic, but I would have preferred the MP-38/40 and MG-42 to any of their Allied equivalents fielded at the time -- and lest we forget, once the StG-44 showed up, we had no equivalents to offer.

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    Seen it before and I completely agree with AC. But you are trying to make the guys feel good about their chances of survival and the equipment they use.

    The M1 Thompson weighed as much as a Garand and the M1919 was nothing to write home about. The Germans had many advantages in the field of small arms (which makes their primary use of the K98 damned ironic).

    I think my favorite would be the MP41 as far as SMGs go.
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