The workspace reload and matches

[Voodoo_Man]

Here we go again.

Quantify your post or do not post.

[glocktogo]

Quantify your post or do not post.

Did you quantify yours? Do you have anecdotal or statistical evidence to show that adherence to competition rules has caused someone to get hurt on the street?

[comprido]

Quantify your post or do not post.

Quantify? I don't think you used that word correctly.

But since you threaten to not allow me to post, I better try to guess what you meant. I think you want me to expound on my comment, no?

The question of whether gun games "will get you killed on the street" has been debated constantly since before gun forums on the internet existed. However, with your wisdom, help and input, this time I expect we can finally get to the bottom of it and reach a consensus.

So...here we go.

[Voodoo_Man]

If you are going to respond to a post with some trollish comment, by all means do so, its good to know which posts not to read.

As for the subject of this thread, if you believe that not putting your pistol/rifle into your work space, muzzle up, is a good idea then more power to you. The rest of us will learn from your mistakes.

[Failure2Stop]

Personally, I don't blame the game, but rather the ROs and organizers.
I have been to plenty of matches that didn't care what you did as long as you didn't break the 180.
I have also been to "tactical" ranges that didn't permit drawing, more than one shot per second, or elevated muzzles, but that doesn't stop me from going to the ranges that don't have stupid rules, just like it doesn't stop me from going to matches that aren't run by idiots.

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[bulbvivid]

OP, are you referring to the discussion in this thread on the Brian Enos forums? Muzzle direction during reloads

[glocktogo]

If you are going to respond to a post with some trollish comment, by all means do so, its good to know which posts not to read.

As for the subject of this thread, if you believe that not putting your pistol/rifle into your work space, muzzle up, is a good idea then more power to you. The rest of us will learn from your mistakes.

Your posts offer no more value than his unfortunately.

[NCPatrolAR]

Quantify your post or do not post.

You're in no position to make that kind of statement.

[bulbvivid]

Did you quantify yours? Do you have anecdotal or statistical evidence to show that adherence to competition rules has caused someone to get hurt on the street?

Not that it matters, but one well-respected instructor related to me a story about a soldier in Iraq who got done working with his pistol and then instinctively went through the "unload and show clear" routine before holstering his empty pistol. He would have been walking around with an empty pistol had someone not pointed out his error.

[Robb Jensen]

Not that it matters, but one well-respected instructor related to me a story about a soldier in Iraq who got done working with his pistol and then instinctively went through the "unload and show clear" routine before holstering his empty pistol. He would have been walking around with an empty pistol had someone not pointed out his error.

Who did he "show it to?" In competition how fast you unload and holster isn't the "timed" portion of the match. Timed portion would be from the timers beep to the last shot fired. That guy "let" the competition mess him up. I carry a gun daily. I don't "unload and show clear", until the RO says "if you are finished unload and show clear", depending on his/her tone may be indicative that I forgot to shoot something..... target feedback and how my sight pictures looked like determines how much the targets will get shot. In competition even under Virginia Count/Vickers Count (limited number of shots allowed on that course of fire) if I had a bad sight picture I'll make up the shot even if it'll cost me penalties, it's instinctual for me to not accept unacceptable accuracy.
This is probably why I'm still a B class shooter in USPSA in Production and Limited and IDPA Expert SSP. I'd rather be penalized in a match instead of giving up accuracy for speed.

There are Tier 1 guys who are competitors BTW.