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Thread: SBR questions (Hoping someone familiar with Noveske will weigh in)

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    SBR questions (Hoping someone familiar with Noveske will weigh in)

    I am torn between 10.5 and 12.5 inch barrels. I like the look of the 10.5 much better, and thats 2 more inches of maneuverability.

    The rifle will be a Noveske, and I trust that since they have a video of a 10.5 dumping 3 beta-C's since half a decade ago, they know how to make one run, as well as a 12.5.

    My question is: I don't want to run a brake. I really just don't. It's obnoxious as hell without a suppressor, and while this is a dedicated suppressor gun, I may at some point want to shoot it without one. I would like to do that with a flash-hider.

    Will the 10.5" eat a blast-baffle exponentially quicker than a 12.5"?

    Will the 12.5" stabilize rounds a lot better than the 10.5"? I mean, if it will cut my chances of a baffle-strike in half, I'm all for it, but if it reduces them by 1% or something, well, whatever. I want to be able to shoot 70gr TSX or 77gr MK262 without fear.

    I am going to be running a Surefire 556-212 suppressor. Assuming I use a 212A flash-hider (the one that looks like a big A2 kindof), will shooting the weapon be nearly negligent in the damage it causes to the suppressor, or will I just cut a 30,000 round service-life down to say, 20,000 rounds (arbitrary numbers). I don't plan on back to back mag-dumps and I don't have an RDIAS. Firing schedule would be, at the "worst", similar to a carbine course following range-commands (i.e. not dumping a Beta-mag into the berm showing off or whatnot).

    Also, is there a point to a Switchblock on a 10.5 or 12.5" rifle, or is it going to be dirty as hell and blow-back in my face like crazy no-matter what? Do they blow-back at noticeably without the switchblock in SBR configuration, or not like a longer barrel (I know it's going to get dirty regardless, I am mainly concerned with blow-back and reliability both suppressed, and un-suppressed)?

    Further, I am worried about the suppressor mount coming loose. Noveske is building the gun, so I know it will be torqued to spec and Rockset used. However, is this one of those "you really need to keep an eye on it..." type things, or is it "It's on, now forget about it until you decide to change it. They only come loose when bubbah does 'em in his garage." ? I ask this because I wonder if having whatever I go with pinned is good insurance for my suppressor, or just over-thinking it. I have wondered this ever since a guy had a baffle-strike and posted about it on here due to his suppressor mount coming loose. He attached it--not Noveske).

    I know, these are probably something heard often, but after searching I didn't find the answers pro or con that I was after. Please bear with me, I did use the "Search" button on this and other sites (silencertalk).
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    Noveske 12.5". One of the most capable barrel lengths they make, with Mk262 they have got legs, and are still handy enough in close quarters. Parituclarly since the 12.5" with Switchblock setups are so impressively nice.

    A rocksett attached 212A will be a nonissue. Still look at it, but most errors are from improperly installing the can on the muzzle device.
    Also, 10.5" barrel erosion is a fair bit more noticeable - there's a thread in the ARFCOM archive where, iirc, Major Malfunction Munitions ran a 10.5" and a 12.5" and checked first baffle erosion, and there was a marked difference.

    A 12.5" Noveske with 556k is probably the 'if I only had one rifle' solution for most anything. Then again, this is coming from somebody with a 10.5" with an OPS M4S...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TehLlama View Post
    Noveske 12.5". One of the most capable barrel lengths they make, with Mk262 they have got legs, and are still handy enough in close quarters. Parituclarly since the 12.5" with Switchblock setups are so impressively nice.

    A rocksett attached 212A will be a nonissue. Still look at it, but most errors are from improperly installing the can on the muzzle device.
    Also, 10.5" barrel erosion is a fair bit more noticeable - there's a thread in the ARFCOM archive where, iirc, Major Malfunction Munitions ran a 10.5" and a 12.5" and checked first baffle erosion, and there was a marked difference.

    A 12.5" Noveske with 556k is probably the 'if I only had one rifle' solution for most anything. Then again, this is coming from somebody with a 10.5" with an OPS M4S...
    Thanks! Now I just have to ask noveske really sweet like if they can build me one. I want one identical to the crusader w vis and sb, but using their Chrome lined barrel instead. I hope they will say yes.

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    I received my 10.5" CQB 5.56mm W/VIS & SWITCHBLOCK last week and the flash hider is threaded for a quick-attach suppressor. The Switchblock has 3 settings: Normal, Suppressed and off.

    Noveske will not sell anything that doesn't work so whatever length you decide you should be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tepin View Post
    I received my 10.5" CQB 5.56mm W/VIS & SWITCHBLOCK last week and the flash hider is threaded for a quick-attach suppressor. The Switchblock has 3 settings: Normal, Suppressed and off.

    Noveske will not sell anything that doesn't work so whatever length you decide you should be good to go.
    I want the 12.5, they just don't advertise it the way I want it. They have a stainless gun, but not one Chrome lined. They do offer the barrel length and with sb, just not configured with vis and sb togather on the Chrome lined model. Basically, I need a barrel swap to get what I want. Will call in am.

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    Noveske does not do custom builds for individuals. I've asked them for specific setups a couple of times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter22 View Post
    Noveske does not do custom builds for individuals. I've asked them for specific setups a couple of times...
    Looks like I have to wait until they advertise the combo I guess. I have no idea why they offer it in stainless and not Chrome lined.

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    I wonder why they offer the build on SS and not CL barrels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    I wonder why they offer the build on SS and not CL barrels?
    They have the barrels and other parts. I will call and ask, maybe its just not advertised on the site right now. Well, eta: I know they can and do make em! http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/NVR-LGPV-556-SB.aspx
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    I know they have everything for it, maybe its just not available at the moment. I love my VIS & SWB, but do wish that the rail extended out further. The 10.5" SS seems to be the only model that still covers a decent amount of the barrel with rail space.

    Either way I'd put the new NSR on any upcoming Noveske build, personally.
    Last edited by Wake27; 06-10-12 at 23:39.
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