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    Quote Originally Posted by g5m View Post
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    well according to the Noveske Shooting team on Facebook, someone said we could call in and place a phone order for the STS. However, when I called Noveske, I spoke to a woman who wasn't quite sure what I was talking about, but then that it wasn't released yet hopefully soon. However she did tell me that the first vendor to receive them will most likely be Rainier Arms.

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    Just in case anyone is interested, the STS 60 Degree Right Hand Safety is in-stock at Rainier Arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vgex2 View Post
    Just in case anyone is interested, the STS 60 Degree Right Hand Safety is in-stock at Rainier Arms.
    So Rainier has the right hand in stock and the ambi as "notify me"

    The right hand is just that, the right hand selector switch only correct?.....just confused because the pic shows both levers, I'm assuming you can just run whichever lever you want, the short one or the long one?
    http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse

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    Quote Originally Posted by adh View Post
    So Rainier has the right hand in stock and the ambi as "notify me"

    The right hand is just that, the right hand selector switch only correct?.....just confused because the pic shows both levers, I'm assuming you can just run whichever lever you want, the short one or the long one?
    http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse
    Correct. I got my single side STS from Ranier and it came with both a long and a short lever. It does seem to return to safe more easily, yet positively than a stock 90 degree lever. I find that the long lever is easy for me to ride in the fire position with about the same thumb placement as it would be riding the thumb safety on a 1911. The outermost edge is a little sharp and uncomfortable on a bare thumb, but that should be easy to correct. Overall, I think it's a worthwhile piece of kit at that price point, particularly if you mate it to a lower cost LPK w/o fire control parts and add a better than stock trigger.

    I'm waiting on a BAD lever as well, so I can do a SXS comparison.

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    The RH and AMBI STS come with both the long and short lever. On the AMBI you can choose what side to put each, on the RH you can chose to run the long or short lever.

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    This quote is from another thread, and I am posting it here rather than in a thread about a competitors product.
    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=108596


    Quote Originally Posted by TRIDENT82 View Post
    It would be a much more kosher move for Noveske to clearly spell out that their designs failed below 60 degrees.....not anybody else's design but theirs. The method, and results to document that statement would be nice as well.
    You can read the original article here
    http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gears...gree-selector/
    The statement was clearly made as to why Noveske chose 60 deg for our design after making several different prototypes.


    As for the reason, simple geometry.

    The back of the trigger presses up on the selector in the safe position. At less than 60 deg, where the trigger pushes up on the selector is not on the axis the selector rotates. So the trigger is actually trying to rotate the selector off safe, and only the detent is keeping it in place.

    You can test this with a GI selector.
    Take it 30 deg off safe, pull the trigger.
    Take it 45 deg off safe, pull the trigger.

    Our design focused on keeping all the dimensions to the MIL print except the angle between safe and fire, the detent grove, and the auto features. Other selectors may not have standard geometry, and we never tested other designs to know or make any claims about their function.

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    I got mine in! Ordered a couple ambi kits the second rainier set them as in stock.

    Three issues...

    1. The standard click to safe and smooth to fire is more like Click to safe and click to fire. It's a very subtle difference. Maybe this will wear in a little?

    2. The magpul selector is actually quite sharp right at the top end of the lever, it could use a radius on this for sure as it's quite aggressive on my thumb when switching. I know... I can feel sharp things, so I'm a pussy. I get it. I'll probably emery it down a little after shooting a couple times if it still annoys me.

    3. The small / jeweler's screw driver needed for install is DUMB. I would have been much happier with a small alan/hex head because that is way more likely to come across. I really don't know why they did this. It's a little questionable to require a special tool just for this. That said, in all reality, who has had a field failure on their safety selector? I guess a failed trigger group would require the safety to come out as well (right?) but that's got to be pretty rare as well.


    The good stuff.... Other than those three things, it's quite nice, and I look forward to trying it at the range. I feel like it's a ton quicker and easier to swap from safe to fire to safe with 60º but the real benefit is I don't have to alter my grip or dislocate my thumb to reach for it. The standard length works great where it is (not too long) and the short is just long enough to feel right at the middle of the trigger finger's metacarpal, so without using my thumb it's pretty clear the safety is off, not having used an ambi safety before this is new to me.

    I think the B.A.D CASS and ASS designs are a little fancier, but I just couldn't really justify dropping $100 on each safety for each AR. I like the 60 throw just fine, and I didn't need to alter anything to fit like the BAD ST levers need. For the price, the STS fit me better. I look forward to trying it out on the range. Have to wait until next week.
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    1. The difference is not huge, but noticeable. Also remember your thumb has less leverage going back towards safe.

    3. Hex or even Torx that small strip out very easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    1. The difference is not huge, but noticeable. Also remember your thumb has less leverage going back towards safe.

    3. Hex or even Torx that small strip out very easily.
    I'll admit I had to go scrounge for my eyeglass screwdriver to install the lever. If a special tool is needed for install, it would be nice if it was included.

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