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    The rail appears to be similar to the Centurion as far as overall shape. I dont really understand the change to the FSB, but okay. Its good to see that they are still innovating, Im excited to hear about the merits of these new products.

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    The only thing I can think of regarding the curved shape of the FSB is so it doesn't reflect as much light back threw an optic maybe. With the sun over your shoulder I've noticed more reflection in an ACOG. But never enough to warrant doing anything about it...

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    It looks like the FSB is slimmer, so it would be a tad lighter. The current FSB is a 5oz hunk of metal.

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    I like the rail improvements. Their other rails felt too egg shaped with the bottom rail being pushed so far down. This new one looks tucked up closer to the bore like a Larue. The lockup looks like it's a hybrid of the Lite and Omega X systems.

    The FSB looks weak, and I've disagreed with how they've saved weight on certain components in the past (sacrifice integrity to be lighter, which is completely backwards from their catch phrase, imo). Hopefully this isn't going to be the same story.
    Last edited by Sanpete; 06-11-12 at 21:01.

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    It would be great if they could keep up with production before they start adding new products that aren't much different than their line up.

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    So the overall theme here it seems is that DD makes geat kit already and they need to be able to make more of it now, forget about any innovation just keep pumping out the same shit., seems like if they wanted to grow their company and maybe grab even more market share than releasing new stuff would seem like a good idea.
    The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step...and a lot of bitching.

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    I personally love it! There ain't nothing wrong with. The new FSP IMHO. Fresh design is fresh design...just embrace it, and get used to it! Most people would eat DD's poopoo anyhow...soon they'll be singing the graces too instead of boohooing about a curved FSP...

    I'm also a HUGE fan of the markings on the URG...just more attention to detail.

    Great Job DD! Just work on your production now!!! You seriously need to up your freaking production! Sales ain't gonna slow down any time soon. With more and more people getting into the game they'll soon be buying your rifles...if they can actually put their hands on one.

    I went to my dealer to throw down some money on a DDM4V5...if I remember right I do believe he told me (after getting off the phone with DD) that the wait was over 12 months...WTF with as much as the MSRP is in one of your products, buy some new damn production equipment.

    Great work though, I'll soon have you...just not in 2012 like I had hoped

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag View Post
    I dont really understand the change to the FSB, but okay.
    The DD Lite, Omega, and M4 rails, along with the Centurion rails, are tall because the bayonet lug on the FSB protrudes so far below the barrel. In order to make a more round rail (the bottom rail is closer to the barrel), along the lines of what KAC and LaRue produce, and still use the FSB, they had to develop a new one that eliminated the bayonet lug.

    I look forward to handling this new rail. A rail with the dimensions of the LaRue rails but with the bolt up system on the DD Lite/RIS rails is perfect, in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by kest_01 View Post
    So the overall theme here it seems is that DD makes geat kit already and they need to be able to make more of it now, forget about any innovation just keep pumping out the same shit., seems like if they wanted to grow their company and maybe grab even more market share than releasing new stuff would seem like a good idea.
    DD rifles are selling faster than they can produce them. Just for upper receiver assemblies, most companies cannot keep them in stock. They're doing just fine...

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    From here:

    Black Creek, GA --(Ammoland.com)- Following months of product development, Daniel Defense is happy to announce the unveiling of the new DDM4 Rail.

    Standard on most Daniel Defense rifles, this addition to the Daniel Defense family of products offers many benefits.

    The DDM4 Rail is designed using our patented Bolt-*-Up System. Instead of 6 bolts, the DDM4 Rail only requires 4 bolts. The lower rail in this model is closer to the barrel and was designed for the most optimal ergonomics.

    “This one-*-piece design has a more narrow profile which lends itself to better weapon manipulation,” says Jordan Hunter, Marketing Manager at Daniel Defense. Front and Rear Sling Adaptors are integrated into both the left and right side rails. The DDM4 Rail™ measures 1.9” wide, 2.165” high with an inner diameter of 1.08”.

    Aside from the slimmer, more compact design of the rail, the length required for each DDM4 model will not change. Versions traditionally offered with an Omega X or Omega X with FSP will be replaced with the DDM4 Rail™ with same length & option based on the barrel configuration. Aesthetically, one can expect the new option to meet or exceed expectations.

    Unlike the other rail systems offered by Daniel Defense, the DDM4 Rail will only be offered as part of a complete rifle or upper receiver group and will not be available for individual sale. Versions being replaced will continue to be offered to customers through dealers, by phone or online at www.DanielDefense.com.

    Two of the Daniel Defense versions will remain unchanged. The DDM4v7 series will continue to be built utilizing the Daniel Defense Modular Float Rail 12.0. Production of the Daniel Defense MK18 will will continue to include the rail designed for US SOCOM, the RIS II.
    Dimensions, for comparison purposes (width x height):

    DD New DDM4: 1.9" x 2.165"
    DD RIS II: 2.23" x 2.22"
    DD Lite: 2.06" x 2.42"
    DD M4: 1.94" x 2.42"
    DD Omega: 1.9" x 2.42"
    Centurion C4: 2.1" x 2.38"
    Troy TRX: 2.2" x 2.44"
    LaRue: 2.0" x 2.22"
    KAC RAS: 2.2" x 2.3"

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    From here:



    Dimensions, for comparison purposes (width x height):

    DD New DDM4: 1.9" x 2.165"
    DD RIS II: 2.23" x 2.22"
    DD Lite: 2.06" x 2.42"
    DD M4: 1.94" x 2.42"
    DD Omega: 1.9" x 2.42"
    Centurion C4: 2.1" x 2.38"
    Troy TRX: 2.2" x 2.44"
    LaRue: 2.0" x 2.22"
    KAC RAS: 2.2" x 2.3"
    I think I have found my new rail.

    If it's ever In-Stock...

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