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Thread: Daniel defense v7 lw - how hot does the hand guard get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrampusArms View Post
    How do standard plastic handguards fair under heavy firing?
    The MOE H.G.'s are GREAT. Add rails to right and left and bottom. Light weight plastic. Top and bottom heat shields. Very comfortable triangular shape.

    I just took a one day carbine class. No problems at all. Bare hands. Will buy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluecanary View Post
    The MOE H.G.'s are GREAT. Add rails to right and left and bottom. Light weight plastic. Top and bottom heat shields. Very comfortable triangular shape.

    I just took a one day carbine class. No problems at all. Bare hands. Will buy again.

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    Only downside is that they wobble so you can't put a BUIS or and thing like that on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
    Only downside is that they wobble so you can't put a BUIS or and thing like that on them.
    They're not designed for that. They're really meant for use with the standard FSB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pira114 View Post
    They're not designed for that. They're really meant for use with the standard FSB.
    True. I just wanted to throw that out there as I didn't realize they were that wobbly before I bought one way back. Thought it may help someone else out.
    Last edited by Snareman; 06-17-12 at 08:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snareman View Post
    True. I just wanted to throw that out there as I didn't realize they were that wobbly before I bought one way back. Thought it may help someone else out.

    That is true. My gun has a railed front gas block with MI (now Diamond Head) folding front.

    Best of all worlds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by duece71 View Post
    Isn't true that some instructors don't want people to wear gloves while in class? Something about trigger control, tactile feel etc....
    Just asking.
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    I have no clue about instructors wanting/not wanting folks to wear gloves. However, if something goes bump in the night and I need my firearm the last thing I need to do is put on a pair of gloves. I try to train as I fight, and that means no gloves in most cases. If I were something other than a civilian then my choice may be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    I have no clue about instructors wanting/not wanting folks to wear gloves. However, if something goes bump in the night and I need my firearm the last thing I need to do is put on a pair of gloves. I try to train as I fight, and that means no gloves in most cases. If I were something other than a civilian then my choice may be different.
    If something goes bump in the night, I'm not worrying about hot hand guards. I seriously don't think that I'd do enough shooting to the point where the handguards got too hot to touch... I mean.. maybe if I lived in the Arghandab River Valley, or anywhere in Kunar, really..
    Last edited by TheBelly; 06-19-12 at 00:16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBelly View Post
    If something goes bump in the night, I'm not worrying about hot hand guards. I seriously don't think that I'd do enough shooting to the point where the handguards got too hot to touch... I mean.. maybe if I lived in the Arghandab River Valley, or anywhere in Kunar, really..
    From guns to gear to clothes to shoes, every non-LE civilian has to balance training against reality. Rather than "train like you fight" it's "train for a fight". Every person has to make the decision for themselves if something like training in gloves when they'd never wear them "in a fight" is a bad thing or not. There is no right answer.

    And until you run one of the Brazillian handguards with no covers and without gloves to the point of being uncomfortable or even un-touchable, you have no idea what you would or wouldn't do. Are there more important things to worry about in a civilian gunfight involving an AR? well, duh. But at the same time what benefits are the Brazilian handguards supposedly providing in that application either? Saving weight? In a 30 second gunfight in the hallway of your ranch-type-style castle?

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    I'm really late to the thread, but I have definitely found that the diet hand guards get really hot under prolonged firing sessions. I had a Troy/Vtac that I swapped around, and I would frequently get it hot enough to be distracting, and if I wasn't paying attention I would occasionally get it hot enough to be painful.

    I moved it to my 3-gun rifle, where it's length, weight, and size were an advantage. I trained with that gun differently than I do with my "serious" guns (pretty much just precise pairs, mid range precision, barricades, and long range), as it was purpose built to do those tasks well in competition.

    I think that there are advantages to the thin, light hand guards, but insulation is not one of them. I recently had a guy in class with a DD V7, that needed to wear a glove to be able to continue training. I verified that the hand guard was definitely too hot to be conducive to learning.

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