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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Are you concerened about the rail getting hit at all? Even though that barrel is short, you will encounter some barrel whip.
    Not overly concerned, the LMT 10.5" is quite a heavy profile and the barrel/rail would have to make a big flex before the barrel contacted the rail. I will let you know if it causes any problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by GlocksInMySocks View Post
    Isn't there a certain level on of concern that should be taken with using a crush washer? I was under the impression that you run the risk of baffle strikes with a crush washer and have always used shims.
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    I have $20 that says OP will have a baffle strike and ****ed-up endcap within the first 500 rounds.
    You guys are right, we shouldn't use a crush washer when mounting a suppressor. We did mock this up using the factory crush washer to see if it would fit. As everything appears good we are going to re-install the can using shims and blue locktite, as prescribed by Gemtech.

    Should have the can setup correctly today so I can get to the range later this week and get it a try...

    Cameron
    Last edited by Cameron; 06-19-12 at 13:31.
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    To me, this is very reminiscent of the "VIP Status" trend popular in some areas.



    I mean, it may look good to some people, but to me, it just doesn't look like it was made for anything but looking at. The use of blue loctite, which will be rendered completely useless after the first theoretical magazine is emptied slow-fire, confirms the "look but don't use" concept.

    Money to burn? Why not. I hope I'm wrong, but I see nothing good coming of this aside from "Hellaflush, VIP style" type internet pix.
    Last edited by WS6; 06-19-12 at 17:36.

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    I would NOT use a crush washer.

    At best you will have more significant POA/POA shift when can is on. At worst, catastrophic failure.

    Even if it works initially, the extreme heat can cause fatigue and unknown results down the road. A 30cent crush washer not made to protect an $800 can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    To me, this is very reminiscent of the "VIP Status" trend popular in some areas.

    Money to burn? Why not. I hope I'm wrong, but I see nothing good coming of this aside from "Hellaflush, VIP style" type internet pix.
    Hop off your high horse mate. It is nothing more than a suppressor mounted directly to the barrel and a longer rail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dano5326 View Post
    I would NOT use a crush washer.
    You guys read above where we mocked it up for fit using the factory crush washer right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron View Post
    You guys are right, we shouldn't use a crush washer when mounting a suppressor. We did mock this up using the factory crush washer to see if it would fit. As everything appears good we are going to re-install the can using shims and blue locktite, as prescribed by Gemtech.
    It has now been reinstalled with a shim and locktitied in place following Gemtech's instructions. I will let you know how it works.

    Quote Originally Posted by from GEMTECH's manual
    Because the suppressor aligns on the muzzle threads and against the shoulder at the rear of the muzzle threads, it is of utmost importance to be certain that the suppressor is at all times screwed tightly onto the muzzle of the weapon. We recommend the use of “Blue” Loctite on the threads when mounting the suppressor.
    Do not use any type lockwasher or the factory crush washer. Lockwashers or the crush washer will cause misalignment.
    Cameron
    Last edited by Cameron; 06-19-12 at 18:12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron View Post
    Hop off your high horse mate. It is nothing more than a suppressor mounted directly to the barrel and a longer rail that it clears...

    Cameron
    You went to extra trouble for something that offers absolutely no functional benefit--and might cause issues--just because you like how it looks.

    I don't think I'm wrong on the facts, here, or in relating it to the "VIP status" or "hellaflush" trends going on with cars.

    PS. Get rid of the blue loctite. It's as useful as spit for this application.
    http://tds.loctite.com/tds5/docs/242-EN.pdf
    View the graph titled "Hot Strength Tested at temperature" and extrapolate from there on the temperature. Then factor in heat cycling, etc. Loctite 242 is not recommended for this application, or any other involving this kind of heat.
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    I think you are missing something, it is just an SBR with a can. What extra effort trouble did we have? All I wanted was a can that fits and clears the 10" rail, and it does, with the addition of a basic shim. Where is the trouble and the extra problem?

    I have used blue loctite on suppressors for years without any issues. I think I have owned and used more than 20 suppressors on firearms from .22 to .30-06 in the past 20+ years. I think I got my first can when I was 8...

    Cameron
    Last edited by Cameron; 06-19-12 at 18:22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron View Post
    I think you are missing something, it is just an SBR with a can. What extra effort trouble did we have? All I wanted was a can that fits and clears the 10" rail, and it does, with the addition of a basic shim. Where is the trouble and the extra problem?

    I have used blue loctite on suppressors for years without any issues. I think I have owned and used more than 20 suppressors on firearms from .22 to .30-06 in the past 20+ years. I think I got my first can when I was 8...

    Cameron
    If you're happy, that's all that matters. Lets have a range-report when the time comes.
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    Looks damn good.

    I was starting to think I was the only one who owned an M4-02, I've never seen another one on various gun forums.

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    very nice setup man. When are you taking it out?

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    Cameron,

    Any update. Oh by the way I hate you! A can at 8, Okay not hate just jealous.
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