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    Fill me in on this grip technique

    So I came across this picture of this soldier using a rather different technique to grip his rifle (well none that I've seen before). I assume it's for some sort of close-quarters fighting, and it looks like his fingers are resting on some type of switch for his accessories:



    I'm just curious what this technique is used for. Figure I'd ask on here.
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    It's a "C" grip, or overhand clamp.
    I use it and teach it primarily for use from vertical support and moving to/from a supported position.

    I know some guys that tried it as a stand alone "fighting" stance/grip, but I haven't seen it do anything better than the more conventional grips, but I can point out several aspects where it has performance gaps.

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    I don't mean to be a pest, but could you possibly elaborate a little more on it? (When you get to a computer, of course...lol)
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    IME having your hand oriented in that manner allows you to keep two fingers circled around the handguard while the palm and remaining fingers brace the gun against verticle objects such as walls. Some people will keep their hand in that position when moving rapidly from a support or when moving towards such a support and want to be ready to shoot as soon as they arrive.

    I did recently see some people using it while shooting prone with no support other than the mag on the ground. No experience with it in that manner though

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    IME having your hand oriented in that manner allows you to keep two fingers circles around the handguard while the palm and remaining fingers brace the gun against verticle objects such as walls. Some people will keep their hand in that position when moving rapidly from a support or when moving towards such a support and want to be ready to shoot as soon as they arrive.
    Ah that's what I thought. Thank you!
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    From leaning support, or Table 1 KD Standing @200 this is my preferred grip.

    Shooting around cover or other objects, resting the support hand off those (even in urban prone type settings, or from laying on one's side) there is a limited application for this, and while I used to use this off sandbags or over flat cover, I found it was just effective to flop my entire arm over the handguard, and have since just reverted to rotating my standard grip, or moving support hand to the buttstock in those cases.
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    So what I'm gathering its mainly used in conjunction with a support of some kind??
    As far as a unsupported it seams difficult to maintain good shoulder pressure with the hand inverted..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guns-up.50 View Post
    So what I'm gathering its mainly used in conjunction with a support of some kind??
    As far as a unsupported it seams difficult to maintain good shoulder pressure with the hand inverted..
    Not to mention the fatigue of holding the rifle like that as a normal "battle stance"
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    Not infrequently used shooting offhand in high power competition too.
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    Kyle Lamb mentions this hand position in one of his DVDs as an option that can be used while shooting close targets as you move from one supported position to another. Essentially, the hand position is a left-over from the supported position that you just departed and the targets engaged while moving are close enough to hit without establishing a conventional front grip. I guess the grip may or may not be useful at the new piece of cover, but at that point you'll be behind cover and can choose an appropriate position.

    I'll look up what video he shows it in and will post it up later.

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