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    Thankfully there are some level heads in this thread. Who in their right mind would blame the mfg for a distributor refusing to sell a product?

    Its not like Troy up and decided to stop making or supporting the gun/AR industry, and decided to hose everyone that placed an order...

    Quit being the typical "sue anyone if I dont get what I want" jerk. This could turn into a much bigger issue for the entire gun community, not just the few thousand that didnt get a deal on a rifle.

    And I doubt seriously if Troy is set up to sell guns to individuals via standard online ordering, or if they even want to get into the direct to consumer gun market. I would bet they are working (or will be in the next few days) to get in with a major distributor (who will want ANY AR they can get right now), and dont be surprised if these start popping up in your local gun shops or a major chain soon... At about $1200-1600 MSRP.

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    its not troys fault they were doing their best to build them and ship them out. they dont have your info they only have a number of rifles ordered by dicks. theres no way that troy could call us up individually and say let me get you a rifle. they just dont have that information. dicks stopped selling ar15's so they told troy hey were not buying anymore of your rifles because we are gay and want to be antigun. how is that troys fault? troy cant forcibly send them rifles and demand that dicks fill our orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee_NY View Post
    I have a box with a photo of a Troy carbine in it as a gift for my Godson under our tree and here on Christmas eve I get a letter from Dicks telling me tuff luck, sorry... Dicks blames Troy for not fulfilling the orders, Troy blames Dicks, bla, bla, bla well how does any of that fix his Christmas? You know what, no matter who is to blame Troy has the rifles and if they wanted too, they could simply stand up to the plate go above and beyond all the nonsense and simply honor the backorders.


    EDIT TO ADD: Unit5 is on the same page as me.


    Are you really that naive/ignorant to think that Troy can just start sending guns out to people?

    They didnt accept the orders from you. They didnt get your money. They dont have your FFL on file. They have no desire (based on how they introduced the rifles) to get into the "online gun sale" business.

    They made a deal with a distribution center (Dicks) for XXXX numbrer of guns, at $XXX per gun, and started building. 100% of this is based on the distribution method working. If that doesnt work, Troy cant just say "Hey Dicks, can I have the list of everyone you screwed, so we can mail these guns out".

    The reality is, as long as Dicks honors their contract ($$$$ for guns), they own the guns and can do whatever they want. I assume DICKS has a contract with Troy as an exclusive distributor for a certain period of time, so Troy may not even be able to find a different distributor until that contract is up, or Troy could be sued by Dicks.
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    A while ago, Dick's pulled all AR-15 style rifles and all full-capacity magazines off their shelves.

    Read their (Dick's) press release and other news to see why: Turns out the recent Sandy Hook murderer tried to buy a rifle from one of their stores. He was blocked (the system worked); but Dick's apparently decided they can't take the heat and didn't need the fight.

    Now we know which stores really support the 2nd A, and which are just making a quick buck off of us but don't care either way.
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    Just read in another forum that a member has spoke with an attorney and the attorney said our case is strong. The UCC and consumer protection laws are on our side. I highly doubt Troy had anything to do with the mess Dick's started, but if they did we have to hold them accountable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyLine1 View Post
    I don't post much,

    Seriously guys...your going to sue for a rifle you didn't own or fill out a 4473 to transfer...

    Troy didn't create this situation, boycott the crap out of Dicks, Dicks created this situation.

    DO NOT turn this into a witch hunt for Troy or a crap thread of another forums quality....which has already started sliding down that rabbit hole.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by el_chupo_ View Post


    EDIT TO ADD: Unit5 is on the same page as me.


    Are you really that naive/ignorant to think that Troy can just start sending guns out to people?

    They didnt accept the orders from you. They didnt get your money. They dont have your FFL on file. They have no desire (based on how they introduced the rifles) to get into the "online gun sale" business.

    They made a deal with a distribution center (Dicks) for XXXX numbrer of guns, at $XXX per gun, and started building. 100% of this is based on the distribution method working. If that doesnt work, Troy cant just say "Hey Dicks, can I have the list of everyone you screwed, so we can mail these guns out".

    The reality is, as long as Dicks honors their contract ($$$$ for guns), they own the guns and can do whatever they want. I assume DICKS has a contract with Troy as an exclusive distributor for a certain period of time, so Troy may not even be able to find a different distributor until that contract is up, or Troy could be sued by Dicks.
    You mean they can't just deliver it to our doors, fully loaded, with several cases of ammo and mags? Really, jeez I didn't know that, or maybe I just expected people such as yourself to understand the obvious in how things work. Clearly you don't, or is it you just prefer to be the ignorant, naive, jerk as you so feel the need to call others, hmmm very constructive indeed, thanks for you're input. Please feel free to point out our grammar, punctuation, sentence structure, educational levels, political views, personas and what were all currently wearing because clearly you are, the all knowing...

    Back on topic, Troy very well could have requested that info from Dicks and reached out to all of us on some level or another. They could have at the very least acknowledged the situation, expressed their regret and support by... Oh I don't know, maybe by telling us they are looking into other options, like maybe when they do have another distributor they can offer us something, anything to express their regret and or support. Not that they are legally obligated to do so, but they could have if they had wanted to, but hey, I'm just a cog in the big machine, so what do I know.

    Merry Christmas everyone...

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    Dad got the letter by UPS today. Funny they had it delivered on Christmas Eve when their customer service is closed....

    Patiently waiting on a response from Troy hope they can give some insight .
    Last edited by crowkiller; 12-24-12 at 14:38.
    Psalm 3:3 But thou, O LORD, art a shield for me; my glory, and the lifter up of mine head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee_NY View Post
    You mean they can't just deliver it to our doors, fully loaded, with several cases of ammo and mags? Really, jeez I didn't know that, or maybe I just expected people such as yourself to understand the obvious in how things work. Clearly you don't, or is it you just prefer to be the ignorant, naive, jerk as you so feel the need to call others, hmmm very constructive indeed, thanks for you're input. Please feel free to point out our grammar, punctuation, sentence structure, educational levels, political views, personas and what were all currently wearing because clearly you are, the all knowing...

    Back on topic, Troy very well could have requested that info from Dicks and reached out to all of us on some level or another. They could have at the very least acknowledged the situation, expressed their regret and support by... Oh I don't know, maybe by telling us they are looking into other options, like maybe when they do have another distributor they can offer us something, anything to express their regret and or support. Not that they are legally obligated to do so, but they could have if they had wanted to, but hey, I'm just a cog in the big machine, so what do I know.

    Merry Christmas everyone...
    Everyone lets take a time out and chill. We are all on the same side. Like another poster said this could just be one small battle in the war to keep our gun rights. What we know right now is that Dick's effectively created this mess, there are thousands of people not getting their gun now, troy is working on finding other distribution routes. Instead of bickering on this, lets stay on topic and formulate a plan to put pressure on Dicks and heaven forbid, Troy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee_NY View Post
    You mean they can't just deliver it to our doors, fully loaded, with several cases of ammo and mags? Really, jeez I didn't know that, or maybe I just expected people such as yourself to understand the obvious in how things work. Clearly you don't, or is it you just prefer to be the ignorant, naive, jerk as you so feel the need to call others, hmmm very constructive indeed, thanks for you're input. Please feel free to point out our grammar, punctuation, sentence structure, educational levels, political views, personas and what were all currently wearing because clearly you are, the all knowing...

    You are arguing like a gun grabber - lets focus on the issue. You got a letter, are mad, and now want to sue anyone you can so you get your discounted rifle.

    Way to push the general public view about gun owners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dee_NY View Post
    Back on topic, Troy very well could have requested that info from Dicks and reached out to all of us on some level or another. They could have at the very least acknowledged the situation, expressed their regret and support by... Oh I don't know, maybe by telling us they are looking into other options, like maybe when they do have another distributor they can offer us something, anything to express their regret and or support. Not that they are legally obligated to do so, but they could have if they had wanted to, but hey, I'm just a cog in the big machine, so what do I know.

    Merry Christmas everyone...
    Have you called Troy to ask?
    Do you know what Troy is currently working on in getting the rifles out?
    Do you know what contract they have with Dicks, or if they are even allowed to pursue other distribution methods in any reasonable amount of time based on their contract?

    Or did you just start your postings with "whats going on", then jump straight to the "sue, post FB pages protesting", and start complaining about how Troy isnt doing anything - on the day before christmas, the same day people are finding out about Dicks decision?

    Lets be clear - if I were in your shoes, I would be upset - but I see no reason to jump on the MFG unless you know it is their fault. At this point it is 100% on Dicks, so chill out a bit, think rationally, and quit whining about all the ways you can sue, and focus on what needs to be done. Good luck in getting your rifle.

    And Merry Christmas to you too! Hopefully better news about this is on the way for all affected.
    Last edited by el_chupo_; 12-24-12 at 15:39.

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