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    Quote Originally Posted by lethal dose View Post
    Time will tell. PSA looks good on paper, too but have had some issues.
    Have they actually had performance, reliability, or quality issues with PSA rifles?

    Or are you just referring to the customer service snafus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewdanger View Post
    It is interesting how one man's "Extreme Duty" is another man's base line spec...
    Alot of truth to this, do you trust the mfgs who meet the specs day in and day out with all of their products or do you go for the one who only does it on occassion... Kinda like the Stag arms plus package.
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    Interesting. Previously they were cutting corners and yet some people were happy. Now they are changing their formula and trying to compete with the other names that have proven themselves.

    I could care less what is on paper. They are going to have to produce quality and people will then have to judge for themselves.

    Making a hundred good carbines is one thing, putting out thousands of carbines that perform over years is something else.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Interesting. Previously they were cutting corners and yet some people were happy. Now they are changing their formula and trying to compete with the other names that have proven themselves.

    I could care less what is on paper. They are going to have to produce quality and people will then have to judge for themselves.

    Making a hundred good carbines is one thing, putting out thousands of carbines that perform over years is something else.
    hopefully this is a turn for the better for del-ton, maybe they got some new management that realized profit margins arent everything.
    hey, competition is lovely.

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    Why would I buy a the new "high quality" delton carbine when I can get a BCM or DD for the same price and have been putting out a good carbine for years now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by !Nvasi0n View Post
    My brother in law has a Del-Ton...not sure what model it is. It's a non chrome lined bore and chamber. But the bolt was marked HP/MPI...Guys it may have been, but it's just not the same quality as BCM, or Colt. It's just not. The finish isn't the of the same quality. The F'n Firing Pin seemed like it was made of ground magnesium... it was cheesy. It may have met mil spec...but barely. And I really doubt it was every bolt but rather batch tested.

    I just wouldn't put it on par with Colt, BCM, LMT, DD, LWRC, Etc. Honestly, I wouldn't put Del-ton on par with Bushmaster, Stag, Doublestar, or any other fly by night carbine maker.
    You shouldn't include LWRCi because they do not build milspec rifles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HackerF15E View Post
    Have they actually had performance, reliability, or quality issues with PSA rifles?

    Or are you just referring to the customer service snafus?
    Yes, actual quality issues. I've had THREE:

    1) Spare bolt claiming to meet all milspecs - had a nicely park'd burr on a lug. It went back with no hassles, replaced with one with no apparent defects, they paid shipping both ways.

    2) Complete "premium" BCG - with improperly machined cam pin track, which caused failures in the rifle that were fixed instantly by a BCM bcg. I had a HUGE runaround with them trying to get them to fix this. It ultimately got fixed due to their rep on m4c, but that was after nearly two months of hassle, and I had paid shipping the first return only to get the even-more-defective bcg back unfixed. You can look up my thread if you want.

    3) Complete 20" rifle upper - they built it with an M4 handguard cap, which is (barely) functional but definitely not the norm. I read of others getting them the same way and have not bothered to ask for a replacement, since it does seem to work, although it is wrong.

    YMMV. I've spent a decent bit of money with three "as good as" companies (two of which were the hottest new thing at the time, the third an established company that made something claiming to be milspec, different from their standard consumer grade) and have learned the hard way to buy from the companies that actually set the standard (Colt, DD, BCM, LMT).
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    Yawn.

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