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Then I would not recommend an Aimpoint or EoTech for anything past 50 meters with any expectation of precision.Originally Posted by FF_Turkish
I would advise you to take a look at traditional reticle presentations, such as that in the ACOG line, a low powered variable, or the Prismatic.
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Last edited by Amur; 07-08-12 at 22:52. Reason: F2s knows way more than me.
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I have an astigmatism and the ACOG TA33 is my favorite general purpose optic. With the front cap closed and both eyes open I don't give up much, if anything, at close range and only give up a slight bit in low light indoors.
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Do you run a RMR with that Rob?
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No, absolutely not. I cannot stand those piggy-back setups and have never seen anyone use one efficiently.
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What about a RDS and a magnifier?
I'm curious about this as well. Life long .22 shooter got into defense pistols in 2007 and first AR-15 (6920) in June of 2012. Currently I'm shooting irons. Rifle will be for HD and range. For HD I am pretty much set on a RDS. But I have thought that at magnifier might be nice for some longer distance range shooting.
Last edited by QuackXP; 07-09-12 at 11:23.
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I was thinking more along the lines of an offset if I went that route. The consensus seems to be if you are going to go ACOG/RMR, do it with an offset.
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It's pretty much already been said.
For 2K you could get a variety of optics and swap between them as needed for whatever purpose. use an SRS (rumor is that it's not as sensitive to astigmatism or other eye issues) for nights that the rifle is behind the headboard, and then put on an 'cog when you want to go to the range.
If you only want one, then Rob's suggestion of a TA33 is right on. Another option, though heavier, is the TR24 or something similar. Lots of variety out there when it comes to the low power variables.
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You are forgiven. Just go buy an optic and ammo, and start shooting.
Ken Bloxton
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I think you need to figure out for yourself which direction you want to go:
ACOG
Low powered variable
1X
The TA33 is the only ACOG I like, but I don't like it as much as a good low powered variable. The TA01 NSN is ok, but is still severely hampered by the eye relief issues of the 31 series.
A piggybacked MRD can be effective on a COG, as can an offset mount. They each have their pros and cons, and it mostly comes down to application on which one I would recommend. I would not choose that setup for HD though, and if I have to, I would probably lean toward the offset over the doggy-style. For me, the top mounted RMR is not so much for close range as it is for the times I can't get behind the ACOG, whereas the offset is for general use with the ability to flip the gun when magnification is desired. This is something that took me a while to fully put into perspective.
Sticking a magnifier behind an EoTech or Aimpoint is not going to do anything to make that dot blur and distort any less. As I said before, the distortion won't be a significant factor at 50 meters and closer, but I find precision work at 100 meters and out to be very difficult when compared to iron sights, low powered variables set on 1x, and the Prismatic.
My personal preference is for a low powered variable in the GP role. The problem is that they are heavier and (generally) more expensive. To me the weight trade-off is worth it, for what I do. If you don't care about shooting 12" circles at 500 meters/heads at 300 meters, along with the ability to detect and ID at those distances, you might not need what I prefer. That being said, I generally do push the magnification up to 4x for 100 meters or more if time permits.
You also have the option of picking up a good 1x optic along with a another flavor of magnified optic of your choice, and putting them on good mounts, which will allow you to swap them depending on your application.
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