Selfish Vs Thread: TR24G vs Meopta ZD

[Amur]

I have searched, but the ZD is pretty new so there is not a lot of first hand feedback out there.

I have AR#1 with an Aimpoint. This is for AR#2 which i want a 1-4X on. Both sport 14.5" barrels (because I live in NJ just easier to get pinned)

Target range for this rifle is probably max 300M with a focus on under 200M (I do want to try some magnification though).


The ZD seems to have a nice compromise of weight, price, daylight visibility and a nice reticule out to distance

The TR24G is an old proven standpoint. The triangle seems to be strong in 1X CQB but not that great for far out ranges. But my stated objective is 0-200m focus with 200-300m potential so does I need the better LR reticule?

How do we feel about the durability of the ZD compared to the TR24.... as close to bomb proof as possible is very important to me. (Thus i also flirt with a TA33GH....but alas that is for another thread of which there are plenty of out there)

[cop1211]

I have a Tr24 red triangle, I have had the ZD. Can't go wrong with either.

Both are great during daylight the ZD is better in low/ no light.

Either will be fine out to 300 if you are shooting man sized targets ie head shots or com type shooting.

If you plan on more precise shooting I would go with the ZD.

The ZD doesn't get near the publicity it should.

The eye box is bigger on the TR24. The glass is comparable for both.

I got rid of the ZD and wish I would have kept it.

I have the SWFA 1-6 on order at this time.

[Breadman]

I have a Tr24 red triangle, I have had the ZD. Can't go wrong with either.

Both are great during daylight the ZD is better in low/ no light.

Either will be fine out to 300 if you are shooting man sized targets ie head shots or com type shooting.

If you plan on more precise shooting I would go with the ZD.

The ZD doesn't get near the publicity it should.

The eye box is bigger on the TR24. The glass is comparable for both.

I got rid of the ZD and wish I would have kept it.

I have the SWFA 1-6 on order at this time.

Well put about the tr24. I have no experience with the zd, but i have a tr24g with the german crosshair. In my opinion, the reticles offered by trijicon are the weakest link. I also intended to use this scope mostly at 200 yds. If you were using this scope for serious social purposes (man size targets) it would perform fine. However; I shoot clay pidgens at 200 and I will tell you that with small targets, the reticle can obscure the target.

[Amur]

Does anyone know what the battery life on the ZD is?

[Dave I]

Maybe an odd-duck question or two

Reticle Colors: How does the green triangle stand out vs. the read Meopta ZD? I'm thinking I'd prefer the green, just wondering in practice if there is much difference, if any.

Reticle Designs: I really like the triangle (having never shot it, so just guesstimating from looking at how it works), not to mention the no-batteries-required design. The sharp point just seems to be somehow more precise in drawing my eye to the intended target. However, the holdover chevrons on the ZD seem pretty practical without cluttering stuff up much at all. Do any of you find it lacking without any holdover markings on the TR24g, or is that generally overblown, and is there any chance Trijicon eventually makes a TR24g w/ holdover chevrons/dots/dashes? The ZD reticle just really strikes me as being a nice compromise between being minimalist yet functional.

Also, if there are any updates on people who have these two, I'm all ears if one grows on you more the longer you have it.

-Cheers

[cop1211]

I had both the green and red triangle TR 24's. I prefer the red. Best thing you can do there is try to find a store that has both and check out both colors.

As far as the hold over or not, depends on what distance you will be doing a majority of your shooting. 0-200 no big deal with or without. 300 or more the ZD would be better.

Again the ZD doesn't get enough love as far as the 1-4 scopes go especially for its price point.

The TR24 has a more generous I box, the ZD is the winner in no/ low light.

When ever the SWFA 1-6 comes in and I finally receive it, if it doesn't blow me away, since I have a TR 24, I'll sell the SWFA and get another ZD.

[Amur]

I ended up getting the TR24G.

To me in 1k..ish 1x4 scope market it came down to TR24g, meopta zd and SWFA.

At the end of the day the TR24 is the cheapest, the lightest, well proven, requires no batteries, noted to excel at the 1x CQB type situations which was important to me.

Also I might want to try some hunting and the accupoint is good hunting scope.

if like me you are just starting to shoot scope, the triangle is going to be pushing my skills for a while. If a year in I have mastered that and want to be more precise, I can see what is on the market again then.

[AKDoug]

I don't cover the target with my triangle. I sight in at 50 using the tip of the triangle, which puts me about spot on again at 225. Using this method I can easily hit clay pigeons at 200 if I do my part. For close in fast shots I just paste the triangle over my target and go for it. If I need a precise shot I know my holdovers and just take a quick second to align the tip of the triangle. This scope was perfect for my use of self defense and hunting.

[Breadman]

I don't cover the target with my triangle. I sight in at 50 using the tip of the triangle, which puts me about spot on again at 225. Using this method I can easily hit clay pigeons at 200 if I do my part. For close in fast shots I just paste the triangle over my target and go for it. If I need a precise shot I know my holdovers and just take a quick second to align the tip of the triangle. This scope was perfect for my use of self defense and hunting.

I may have been unclear. If I were buying this scope again, I would have gotten the chevron reticle...I thought the german #4 reticle would be more precise, so that is what I bought. The crosshairs themselves obscure a clay pigeon at 200. There literally is no place to hold on a small target (less than 4" at 200 or 2" at 100)

[Breadman]

Oh... I know this is a different scope altogether, but I just picked up a US Optics SN-4 1.5-6.
Reticle problem at distance SOLVED. Mil reticle in first focal plane. Very precise. The weak part of this scope is up close where magnification is dialed down and reticle is small. There will be times when this reticle is harder to see than the trijicon.
I guess we need to realize (me especially) that a perfect low power variable CANNOT exist, because what we are going for is a perfect compromise. A compromise by its very nature is not going to be the very best at anything, but can be pretty good at everything. I think that about sums up the trijicon tr-24g for me.