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Thread: OIS in Illinois: It took 17rds of .45acp to put this perp down!

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    OIS in Illinois: It took 17rds of .45acp to put this perp down!

    http://www.policemag.com/Channel/Pat...8-25-2008.aspx

    Pretty amazing what the BG was able to take and keep fighting. It wasn't until the officer slowed himself down and focused on shot placement that he was able to put the BG down. I can only train and hope that I would do as well.
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    Great article and good job by the responding officer.

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    That's a crazy ammount of hits.

    14 non headshots from a 45ACP and the bad guy is still in the fight. Insane. 3 headshots did the trick.

    Glad the officer came out on top with no serious injuries.

    Big thanks to all our LEOs. Stay frosty boys and girls, make sure you go home safe.

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    One of Officer Gramins' bullets appears to have struck the gremlin in the hand and gun; disabling the perp's back-up pistol.
    The bad guy's Bersa has a .45 jacket lodged in the magazine.
    Last edited by Wildcat; 07-12-12 at 00:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat View Post
    One of Officer Gramins' bullets appears to have struck the gremlin in the hand and gun; disabling the perp's back-up pistol.
    The bad guy's Bersa has a .45 jacket lodged in the magazine.
    That's a really good point. In FOF training, I always get shot in the hand. It's probably because the other person gets gun fixated. A sim round to your trigger finger gets you thinking a lot more than body shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotguyo540 View Post
    That's a really good point. In FOF training, I always get shot in the hand. It's probably because the other person gets gun fixated. A sim round to your trigger finger gets you thinking a lot more than body shots.
    Part of it is also that people tend to hold guns center of mass when pointing them at each other.
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    What?! You mean one .45 round didn't knock him on his ass and blow a hole in his chest the size of a football??!! No way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman8 View Post
    What?! You mean one .45 round didn't knock him on his ass and blow a hole in his chest the size of a football??!! No way!
    I detect a hint of sarcasm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotguyo540 View Post
    That's a really good point. In FOF training, I always get shot in the hand. It's probably because the other person gets gun fixated. A sim round to your trigger finger gets you thinking a lot more than body shots.
    Hands, arms, legs, neck; seems to be always the places that arent covered by a IIIa vest or paintball mask. If youre playing the perp, forget about coming home unscathed, as soon as you start shooting everyone in the stack rains fury onto you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by N.Franklin View Post
    Hands, arms, legs, neck; seems to be always the places that arent covered by a IIIa vest or paintball mask. If youre playing the perp, forget about coming home unscathed, as soon as you start shooting everyone in the stack rains fury onto you.

    Ouch...

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