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    I'm pretty sure Ferrari has stipulations on cars like the Enzo that read almost exactly like what you've listed. I'm guessing this company literally thinks they're the Ferrari of AR's, and took these rules from Ferrari or a company like them to get that elite status. Now they can sell ARs to people that have too much money, and have them feel special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivokalok View Post
    25 "non-disparagement". If they don't like ANYTHING you ever say about their product in any way...they can command you to retract it. I like reading reviews of products--but with this--I can't trust anything because it can't be anything they don't like! Wow. Unbelievable. What kind of company does this?
    I several years reviewed license agreement of one gig ERP software system (big systems to manage big companies) for my customer. To be able to use software customer must give it favorable review, sign out success story and sent each year employee to SAP conference, that will tell how happy they are. If client report problems with software implementation or usage publicly, they loose license. Plus 100% upfront payment, even if software will never work.

    Maybe this Legion company have some IT industry lawyers?
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    I'm sure they'll be out of bitness soon. Too much competition to have a startup pulling jack-assery like that.

    Much better, cheaper options out there.

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    F those guys. They're not offering anything special. Take your business elsewhere with a company that flies straight and easy.
    Life is full of choices. I choose Noveske.

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    Hi all,

    I'm Adam Morehead, one of the co-founders of Legion Firearms. First of all, I agree with pretty much everything posted thus far. When we formed the company we wanted to be as rock solid as we could in our terms and conditions, and in reading this feed back I know we went WAY TOO FAR. (BTW Montrala, you're right: our attorney represents several software companies). The legal mumbo jumbo generally makes my eyes glaze over, so I deeply apologize for conveying a douchebag like image. That's certainly not our intent.

    We in no way want to keep anyone's money if they "default". Considering this pertains a web purchase, the credit card is either good or it isn't. If it doesn't work out we'll put the order aside for you, see if there is another payment method available, or whatever it takes to get you Legion gear.

    We love it if you take courses and train with firearms, but if you don't want to, then you don't have to. This clause is really dumb.

    Also, once you buy Legion kit, do what you want with it (except straw purchasing of course). We don't have any rights to it, or you, or anything in your gun safe after purchase. Again, this clause is ridiculous.

    Finally, go ahead and talk about your Legion products. Whether it's good or bad we at Legion (and everyone on the internet) should know. We want to make everyone happy and really appreciate the feed back we get from our customers. This post is in fact good feedback. We f'ed up and we'll fix it. That's what we do.

    Sorry again folks. Thanks for letting me know what we need to change.

    Adam
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    Quote Originally Posted by adameverywhere View Post
    Hi all,

    I'm Adam Morehead, one of the co-founders of Legion Firearms. First of all, I agree with pretty much everything posted thus far. When we formed the company we wanted to be as rock solid as we could in our terms and conditions, and in reading this feed back I know we went WAY TOO FAR. (BTW Montrala, you're right: our attorney represents several software companies). The legal mumbo jumbo generally makes my eyes glaze over, so I deeply apologize for conveying a douchebag like image. That's certainly not our intent.

    We in no way want to keep anyone's money if they "default". Considering this pertains a web purchase, the credit card is either good or it isn't. If it doesn't work out we'll put the order aside for you, see if there is another payment method available, or whatever it takes to get you Legion gear.

    We love it if you take courses and train with firearms, but if you don't want to, then you don't have to. This clause is really dumb.

    Also, once you buy Legion kit, do what you want with it (except straw purchasing of course). We don't have any rights to it, or you, or anything in your gun safe after purchase. Again, this clause is ridiculous.

    Finally, go ahead and talk about your Legion products. Whether it's good or bad we at Legion (and everyone on the internet) should know. We want to make everyone happy and really appreciate the feed back we get from our customers. This post is in fact good feedback. We f'ed up and we'll fix it. That's what we do.

    Sorry again folks. Thanks for letting me know what we need to change.

    Adam

    Cool. While you're at it could you post some detailed specs of your weapons as well? Informed customers love that. MP testing of Bolt and Barrel, Barrel material, TDP stuff. I know basically every fart that went into my Colt, what makes a Legion tick other than the NIBX and other flashy things?
    http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQ2zEv1ukzyH_aeFG6-amwPk7CUBz7b4URcTQ8lFFl-LOLSDkQ

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    For the record I met these cats at SHOT and looked over their stuff. Visually everything seemed to be very nice. Never got much info on the specs.

    I do know that there is at least one instructor using and testing one of their AR's so it will be interesting to see what he says.

    I wouldn't mind getting one for T&E to see how it does.



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    Quote Originally Posted by adameverywhere View Post
    Hi all,

    I'm Adam Morehead, one of the co-founders of Legion Firearms. First of all, I agree with pretty much everything posted thus far. When we formed the company we wanted to be as rock solid as we could in our terms and conditions, and in reading this feed back I know we went WAY TOO FAR. (BTW Montrala, you're right: our attorney represents several software companies). The legal mumbo jumbo generally makes my eyes glaze over, so I deeply apologize for conveying a douchebag like image. That's certainly not our intent.

    We in no way want to keep anyone's money if they "default". Considering this pertains a web purchase, the credit card is either good or it isn't. If it doesn't work out we'll put the order aside for you, see if there is another payment method available, or whatever it takes to get you Legion gear.

    We love it if you take courses and train with firearms, but if you don't want to, then you don't have to. This clause is really dumb.

    Also, once you buy Legion kit, do what you want with it (except straw purchasing of course). We don't have any rights to it, or you, or anything in your gun safe after purchase. Again, this clause is ridiculous.

    Finally, go ahead and talk about your Legion products. Whether it's good or bad we at Legion (and everyone on the internet) should know. We want to make everyone happy and really appreciate the feed back we get from our customers. This post is in fact good feedback. We f'ed up and we'll fix it. That's what we do.

    Sorry again folks. Thanks for letting me know what we need to change.

    Adam
    Dude, that is a great post, and IMO you totally redeemed yourselves. I just went from zero interest to curious, so you made progress with at least one grumpy jerk on the internets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    For the record I met these cats at SHOT and looked over their stuff. Visually everything seemed to be very nice. Never got much info on the specs.

    I do know that there is at least one instructor using and testing one of their AR's so it will be interesting to see what he says.

    I wouldn't mind getting one for T&E to see how it does.
    Steve Fisher from Magpul i believe is an instructor that's using Legions rifle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6YOopv_X_I

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GvRhcZEy8M

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    I knew that. I just didn't want to broadcast it all over the net anymore than it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by badness View Post
    Steve Fisher from Magpul i believe is an instructor that's using Legions rifle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6YOopv_X_I

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GvRhcZEy8M



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    Semper Paratus Arms AR15 Armorer Course http://www.semperparatusarms.com/cou...-registration/

    M4C Misc. Training and Course Announcements- http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=141

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