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    Thanks for the update Adam.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    ignorance of the law is no excuse

    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    I don't really care about the agreement, I looked at it and honestly was turned off after the first paragraph, I HATE READING ANYTHING WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS. I feel like I am being yelled at. Use the shift key.
    While I don't doubt that you are not alone in this opinion--it is not a wise position to take. Ignorance of the law is no excuse... I've read a lot of stories of people who didn't know firing a warning shot is often a felony...

    If you consent--you are bound by the terms of a contract, and I for one want to know what they are.

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    final summary?

    Adam, I understand your desire to protect yourself, but to a certain extent the seller and buyer are opposing—to the extent you protect yourself—you stick it to the buyer. That was clearly what you had done initially. That said, much like in wresting where you score 2 points for a takedown—and the same for an escape--as displeased as I was that you had that policy in the first place, I am pleased that you changed it.

    I read the new policy, and the only one that gave me pause was the ‘in any dispute, even if not litigated, loser pays everything’ clause. Again, I understand your motivation for that clause, but as a customer that ‘blank check for any excess of yours’ does still concern me a bit. My decision making process just got a bit more difficult, however...

    Lastly, my co-worker just bought a gun online from Bud's (a dealer not a manufacturer), and I asked him if he signed any agreement at all like this...and his answer was 'no'. It is possible that he wasn't as careful as me however.

    Again, thanks for responding to a potential customer. That is the definition of customer service, regardless of what I buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivokalok View Post
    If you consent--you are bound by the terms of a contract, and I for one want to know what they are.
    I don't know how to do smileys with tapatalk but if I did I would insert the one where the guy is rolling around on the floor laughing and kicking his feet.

    You think contracts are binding? And that this is one such contract even if they were?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivokalok View Post
    While I don't doubt that you are not alone in this opinion--it is not a wise position to take.
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    Honestly, I've never before seen someone get this worked up over nothing...

    You are making a mountain out of a molehill here...

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    At first glance, this sealed Legions fate I'm my mind. But Adam seems to have made things right. Good on him for that. Some companies would just tell you "You suck and we hate you.".

    This one seemed to work fairly well the last carbine class I was at.
    Fits the description of the rifle mentioned previously.


    Interesting product. It looked like a well rounded rifle, the only things I was particularly attracted to were the barrel and Wilson handguard though.

    speaking of iphones... autocorrect blows.
    Last edited by DasBulk; 07-17-12 at 19:43.
    “Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars.” Khalil Gibran

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivokalok View Post
    While I don't doubt that you are not alone in this opinion--it is not a wise position to take. Ignorance of the law is no excuse... I've read a lot of stories of people who didn't know firing a warning shot is often a felony...

    If you consent--you are bound by the terms of a contract, and I for one want to know what they are.

    Not sure you get it. When I got sick of reading their "contract" they lost me as a potential customer. I read contacts that I sign. This is asinine one and I it is not one I even read, so I would not sign it. I have plenty or AR's don't need another right now but when I go looking it will be from someone w/o a "contract"
    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I don't know how to do smileys with tapatalk but if I did I would insert the one where the guy is rolling around on the floor laughing and kicking his feet.

    You think contracts are binding? And that this is one such contract even if they were?
    I couldn't find kicking feet but put an LOL in there for ya.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    You on an iPhone or iPad Rob? I thought I had it figured out but don't. Tried a test, didn't work.
    Last edited by usmcvet; 07-17-12 at 19:38.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    apologies/ending thread

    I believe I owe 2 apologies:

    1) I seem to have misunderstood a comment that Mega was not a quality builder. Several corrected me there and nobody affirmed my point--fine and done. Mega=good.

    2) USMCVET, I also appear to have misunderstood you. I interpreted your comment as a "I don't need no stinking badges" variant--that you stopped reading the terms because you either didn't care or didn't think they applied to you. My bad. I now understand either the details of the terms and/or the fact there were terms at all made you walk away. As it turns out, I think we are of like mind there...

    Frankly, I think I had the right idea just the wrong person--I think my comments should have gone toward rob s who appears to believe that some if not all is not enforceable.

    I'm not interested in debating the finer points of contract law, and I think I've got out of this thread what I wanted, so I'm almost certainly done with this post. That said, while I realize that some parts of a contract may be unenforceable--I'm not going to sign one on that assumption and hope I'm right. I also know that the assumption that parts are unenforceable may be wrong. If Rob s chooses to explain why he believes this (assuming my understanding is correct), I'll certainly review. If I have misunderstood him, I will apologize now rather than making another post.

    To all who have responded (especially Adam)--a sincere thanks. I know I'm a bit wiser now, and I hope others are too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivokalok View Post
    I believe I owe 2 apologies:

    1) I seem to have misunderstood a comment that Mega was not a quality builder. Several corrected me there and nobody affirmed my point--fine and done. Mega=good.

    2) USMCVET, I also appear to have misunderstood you. I interpreted your comment as a "I don't need no stinking badges" variant--that you stopped reading the terms because you either didn't care or didn't think they applied to you. My bad. I now understand either the details of the terms and/or the fact there were terms at all made you walk away. As it turns out, I think we are of like mind there...

    Frankly, I think I had the right idea just the wrong person--I think my comments should have gone toward rob s who appears to believe that some if not all is not enforceable.

    I'm not interested in debating the finer points of contract law, and I think I've got out of this thread what I wanted, so I'm almost certainly done with this post. That said, while I realize that some parts of a contract may be unenforceable--I'm not going to sign one on that assumption and hope I'm right. I also know that the assumption that parts are unenforceable may be wrong. If Rob s chooses to explain why he believes this (assuming my understanding is correct), I'll certainly review. If I have misunderstood him, I will apologize now rather than making another post.

    To all who have responded (especially Adam)--a sincere thanks. I know I'm a bit wiser now, and I hope others are too.
    No worries man. I am impressed with Adam and his willingness to have an open discussion. Their gear looks impressive too.

    The no stinking badges is one of my favorite quotes. I used it in a power point presentation last fall to a room full of cops
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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