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    Buying a Factory SBR

    All,

    So I'm looking at buying an SBR since I find myself in a state that is extremely SBR friendly (Mississippi) and will be stationed here long enough for the paperwork to go through.

    There is a local dealer who said he could order me a Colt 6933 and help me complete all the paperwork. I just want to make sure that I know ALL of the restrictions and paperwork required before I take the plunge and wait 4 months. This is especially important since I will be moving when I finish flight training, and don't want to be stuck with a weapon that I cannot take with me, and will have a hard time selling.

    So, as I understand it, the steps are;

    1. Purchase the Colt 6933 through the dealer.

    2. Obtain the Forms (Form 4?) from the dealer, take it to the local sheriff's office to complete it and send it off to the ATF along with a one time $200 check.

    3. Wait 4 - 6 months.

    4. Take the tax stamp that I get from the ATF to the dealer, and pick up my SBR rifle.

    Couple questions that I wasn't able to find answers to through searching.

    1. If I buy a 6933, can I add a 14.5" upper at a later date, as long as I keep the 11.5" upper in my possession?

    2. If I move to a non-SBR friendly state (Possible moves include Texas, Virginia, Washington State, California, I believe of these only California presents a problem.) could I store the weapon at my parent's house, as long as I notify the ATF?

    3. Are there any big items that I am missing as far as the process? I feel like this is much simpler than building your own SBR and using a trust/engraving the lower etc...

    Thanks for the help!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navymid2011 View Post
    1. If I buy a 6933, can I add a 14.5" upper at a later date, as long as I keep the 11.5" upper in my possession?
    Yes, you can attach any upper and its not considered a "permanent" change as long as you still possess the 11.5 and can put it back to its original length. If you sell the 11.5 and go with a different length, you will need to notify the ATF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navymid2011 View Post
    2. Obtain the Forms (Form 4?) from the dealer, take it to the local sheriff's office to complete it and send it off to the ATF along with a one time $200 check.

    Step 2 has a few sub-steps:

    -assumes that you can get the Form 4 from your dealer. Fine if he has them, but you can also order them on line from ATF, or you can download a Form 4 from ATF and fill it out electronically, then print it out. Make sure you print it out on both sides of one sheet of paper. That form is available here http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5320-4.pdf

    -You will need one copy of a Certificate of Compliance. Available at http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5330-20.pdf

    -You will need two of the standard FBI fingerprint cards and they will need NFA Branches ORI number printed on them. Some Sheriff's Departments or county jails will already have blank ones, but you'll need to enter the correct ORI number. The ORI number for NFA Branch is WVATF0800. You can order those fingerprint cards with the ORI number pre-printed (as well as all the other forms) from http://www.atf.gov/forms/dcof/ . They're free, and they ship quickly.

    -You'll need to get your fingerprints taken. Local police or Sheriff or jail can likely print you. May or may not cost you anything depending on local policy.

    -You'll need two 2x2 passport photos, one each to attach to each of the two forms that you send.

    -You'll need your local law enforcement officer (Sheriff or Chief of Police, and a few other officials are also permitted to sign this), to sign both forms that you've prepared. Make sure they sign in the correct spot. I had a Form 1 returned to me because the Sheriff's "authorized representative" signed in the wrong place.

    NFA can be prickly about how the forms are filled out. There are some ways of filling the form out that the current crop of examiners might not allow.

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    As far as moving goes, it is real simple. If you move you send NFA Branch a letter indicating the new address. If you go to a non-SBR state (Washington) you simply keep the lower locked up somewhere and drop a 16" upper on it and you are good to go.

    In California you will need more mods and I suggest you leave it secured in another state. This is allowed as long as you are the only one who can access the safe.

    If you add a 14.5" upper (not sure why) you will still have an SBR unless the flash hider is pinned into place.



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    Columbus or Meridian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason0311 View Post
    Columbus or Meridian?
    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    As far as moving goes, it is real simple. If you move you send NFA Branch a letter indicating the new address. If you go to a non-SBR state (Washington) you simply keep the lower locked up somewhere and drop a 16" upper on it and you are good to go.

    In California you will need more mods and I suggest you leave it secured in another state. This is allowed as long as you are the only one who can access the safe.

    If you add a 14.5" upper (not sure why) you will still have an SBR unless the flash hider is pinned into place.
    Iraqgunz: If I were to move to Washington, could I give my dad the SBR upper, since he doesn't have any AR-15 parts (e.g. a lower), put a 16" upper on my SBR lower and call it good? Or is that not kosher? If I move to California I'll keep the rifle at my Home of Record, I guess in a case only I know the lock for.

    Jason0311: Meridian

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    Yes you can, the sbr upper is considered a part not a firearm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navymid2011 View Post
    Iraqgunz: If I were to move to Washington, could I give my dad the SBR upper, since he doesn't have any AR-15 parts (e.g. a lower), put a 16" upper on my SBR lower and call it good? Or is that not kosher? If I move to California I'll keep the rifle at my Home of Record, I guess in a case only I know the lock for.

    Jason0311: Meridian

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    Plan on waiting more than 4-6 months. You should be prepared for 7-8 months plus. The NFA branch is very backed up and it's getting worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navymid2011 View Post
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    4. Take the tax stamp that I get from the ATF to the dealer, and pick up my SBR rifle.
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    The dealer will receive the Form 4 with the stamp attached from ATF. He will notify you when the gun is ready for transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtibbals View Post
    Plan on waiting more than 4-6 months. You should be prepared for 7-8 months plus. The NFA branch is very backed up and it's getting worse.
    That doesn't appear to be true. This data compiled from NFAtracker.com


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