For anyone interested in one of these. http://www.surefire.com/media/catalo...6-1-2-28_1.png
They are currently in stock here. http://www.webersguns.com/3prong-fla...cturers_id=263
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For anyone interested in one of these. http://www.surefire.com/media/catalo...6-1-2-28_1.png
They are currently in stock here. http://www.webersguns.com/3prong-fla...cturers_id=263
Last edited by Biggy; 09-26-12 at 23:12.
Josh,
The AUG version http://www.surefire.com/sf3p-556-aug-flash-hider.html seems to have the same restriction for minimum orders. As a side note, I didn't see anything mentioned on the new suppressors regarding minimum barrel lengths other than the Socom556-sb, which is designed for barrels less than 10 inches or unstable (unjacketed frabgibile, green) ammo. Are all the new versions ok to use on 10"+ inch barrels?
Update: I spoke to a customer rep when I placed my order for a couple of flash hiders and the Sig 553/AUG adapters are not sold very often and require a minimum 200 unit order for production, unfortunately. Also, they don't really make many weapon specific adapters as I was inquiring about the updated hider for a Scar 17s. He told me the http://www.surefire.com/sf3p-762-5-8...ash-hider.html would fit the scar as they just go by threads now. If I recall correctly, the previous scar hider had 5/8-24 RH and the above version is LH thread. I hope Garin can chime in on whether this is still the correct version or not.
Last edited by SPARTAN HOPLITE ARMS; 09-27-12 at 12:59.
Leave the guns...bring the cannolis.
Give me but one firm spot on which to stand and I will move the Earth. -Archimedes
Garin, I decided to purchase the SOCOM762-MINI and had some questions.
1- When do you think my class 3 dealer will have them?
2- How will the SOCOM762-Mini fare with a 5.56 10.5 sbr?
Thanks in advance for your contribution to the site.
Looks like it was doing the same thing to me, look at the last shot at 3:11. Impossible to clearly see, but the case looks like it was hit by the returning BCG after hitting the front of the ejection port to me, just like in the other scene around 3:40. I guess I'm just not sold on the baffle stack reducing back-pressure. AAC said the same thing about the M4/SPR. It jumps cyclic ROF up by around 300rpm on an M4. That is why I am skeptical, plus Surefire's own video.
A suppressor works by slowing gasses expulsion from the muzzle, bleeding energy off of it and converting "sound" to "heat". The longer the dwell-time, the quieter the suppressor can make the gunshot, all things being equal, because the longer the gas is bled of sound to heat. This means pressure remains high in the can. Since this suppressor has the same efficacy on sound as the last suppressor, I cannot see how it could significantly alter blow-back, especially since it has the same volume, or near enough to it. The only thing I can think of is that the peak pressures are lower, and there is more or an "average" pressure with reduced peaks, allowed by the vented blast baffle. I have no doubt that it does reduce back-pressure some, but a meaningful amount? That, I would have to see proof of. So far, I have seen the opposite.
If the massive volume of the M4/SPR is insufficient, I highly doubt that drilling holes in the baffle-stack will somehow make a huge difference. It's a great idea and evolutionary and something I think is a good thing, no doubt! However, I don't think it's the death of variable gas systems or the cure for needing an H3 in some guns.
If anything, I am a Surefire fanboy, but I also am not going to easily accept something that goes against the laws of physics without proof. So far, Surefire's own marketing says that no, they can't beat physics, either. Of course, some will say that Surefire used a poorly built gun, or something like that. Well, maybe.
Last edited by WS6; 10-03-12 at 12:36.
Just watched it again and the M4 at 3:08 looks fine to me, though I do agree the next rifle is def ejectig strangely. I did a frame by frame of the video and the case easily clears the rifle, also woth noting its a 16" carbine which are slighty overgassed with the extra 1.5" barrel.
Until we have someone with real hands on we wont know, that second gun would be overgassed to begin with.
Last edited by sinlessorrow; 10-03-12 at 13:13.
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