Survival rifle

[mike11]

i havent used them personally but i have heard nothing but good things about both the ruger 10/22 takedown and the AR-7. sometimes i hear people calling them bad guns and they arent accurate blah blah blah, this isnt a sniper rifle your trying to buy.. its a SURVIVAL GUN. i dont own either yet but i plan i buying at least one if not both models in the next year or two.

[Redmanfms]

i havent used them personally but i have heard nothing but good things about both the ruger 10/22 takedown and the AR-7.

sometimes i hear people calling them bad guns and they arent accurate blah blah blah, this isnt a sniper rifle your trying to buy.. its a SURVIVAL GUN.

Aren't these mutually exclusive statements?

The problem with the AR-7 isn't so much accuracy (which isn't terrible), it's reliability. They are hit-and-miss in terms of reliability and the problem is rarely caused by ammunition sensitivity. Some function properly, some don't.

[Smedley]

I'm looking at a small caliber packable
Hunting rifle for my 14 yr olds BoB

Add my one vote for the Ruger 10/22 with Butler Creek folding stock.
Overall length of the 10/22 with stock folded is 27"
Length of the 10/22 take-down, taken apart is 20" (the receiver/stock is the larger of the two sections and measures 20").
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-1022TD.htm
You can't go wrong with either of these choices.
I've owned the AR-7, and own the Marlin Papoose (both 22LR). .. The Marlin is a splendid little survival rifle and worthy of consideration.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ding/70PSS.asp
I was not impressed with any aspect of my AR-7.

[SunTzu]

For a good take down rifle I would go with the Browning first followed by the Ruger. For a non take down I like the Remington Nylon 66. Super lightweight rifle and a fine shooter.

[Doc. Holiday]

I would go for the Ruger 10/22 just because it is one of the most popular 22s ever made. Plenty of parts, conversions, and success stories to back it up. I love mine. Just a great little gun.

[usmcvet]

Savage Model 24, .22 LR barrel over a 20 ga. shotgun barrel.

Or, if you prefer more power, one in .223 Rem. over 12 ga.


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I've wanted one for a while. Wish I saw that add for $230 I would have bought it. Cool gun.

I have & use this all the time.



A brick 550 rnds is > $20.00. Excellent system, low weight, compact & surprising accuracy.

I use MagPul BUIS w/ Vortex RDS. Light weight & tac driver.

http://www.pkfirearms.com/Ares_22_RCU/129/c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0kQxSPOP3c

here's a link to a previous post:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=102529

Shot placement is everything w/ this system.

So the upper is the serial numbered item on the Ruger right?

Back before SHTF and TEOTWAWKI were common acronyms and Mel Tappan was just starting to write a column in Guns and Ammo, I bought a Savage model 24C. The local gun store had to special order it.

The 24C was marketed as a Campers Companion, that is the C designation. No one back then knew what bugging out was. It easily breaks into two pieces to fit into a back pack case. They are chambered for .22 LR over 20 gauge, mine has a 3" chamber.

It has a hinged butt plate that is shown flipped open in the photo below with drilled storage holes for spare .20 gauge and .22 cartridges OR fishooks, matches, para cord, firestarter, etc.

With sub-caliber chamber inserts mine can fire .410 gauge, .44 magnum & .44 special, .357 magnum & .38 special, 9mm, and of course 20 gauge birdshot, buckshot, or slugs, and .22 rim fire. The subcaliber inserts gives a lot of versatility. I am sure there are now more sub caliber inserts than the few I bought years ago.

I can consistently cloverleaf 9mm Winchester 124g SXT hollow points at 50 yards using the iron sights and a prone rest on the ground . To be candid, the only thing I ever killed with it were English Sparrows in the back yard-shooting .20 gauge birdshot. I did replace the rear ramp style sight with a Ruger 10/22 folding sight.

There is one for sale right now on Gunbroker for a buy it now price of $230. I am not associated with that sale. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=304714572
That's an awesome price.




It is about the same overall length as a Ruger 10/22. It is a handy little gun.

Have fun
RFA

[Shorts]

I saw the Papoose mentioned. It is a worth consideration. I have had the updated 70PSS (stainless barrel & synthetic stock w/ LSHB feature) and currently have a 70P (blue barrel & wood stock no last shot hold back). Both shoot accurately and are a pleasure.

Now the catch, Marlin no longer produces these. Remington bought Marlin in '07 and this was pretty much the end of the line. This situation has to do with the Ceberus/Freedom Group buy.

Papoose (Papooses? Papi?) are pretty hard to come by in the 70PSS configuration, used being sold for a premium starting about $350. The 70P is a little easier to come by, you're looking at $230 starting price used. Replacement parts are what should be mulled over. Looking through parts sources, a few key pieces are discontinued. Marlin did carry over parts for several models but not all. If you've got fab skills and are determined to keep a Marlin going it can be done. But I don't think that is optimum considering other good options on the market.

That said I plan to keep my Papoose running as long as possible, even if it means buying a spare gun. I prefer to shoot it over my Model 60. It's a good rifle but I had the Papoose first and I love it.

[Dave L.]

I have been meaning to try out a Feather USA .22.
http://www.guns-rifles-firearms.com/
Anyone ever use one?

[Flamingo]

Here is a Papoose I put together. It has a DIP trigger and trigger guard, an XS front sight, an adjustable rear sight from Marlin, and a threaded barrel with an AAC Element.

[KTR03]

I'd take a look at the AAC handi rifle as well. I have one in 300 blackout. it breaks down into two small pieces. It will give you the ability to dispatch small game with subsonic solids and hunt deer size animals with supersonic loads. Its light, small, and very reliable. I'm running mine with a suppressor on it and subs are almost Hollywood quiet.

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